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1.       aluette
2 posts
 28 Oct 2005 Fri 02:18 pm

Dear class mates, espcially those who are turkish, do you feel close to Europe or Asia in your mentality? Let's us do not take the everage of people who has the University up to MA-MBA or Ph.D. level of education, but thoses who compose the middle class of the country? Is turkish people identity are trully came from Europe or perphaps traditions of the East are still so strong that Turkey in part of Asia?

2.       erdinc
2151 posts
 28 Oct 2005 Fri 07:04 pm

Dear aluette,

welcome to the TurkishClass forums. People who have visited Turkia will realise that Turks are much more close to European culture and European values than the Asian ones.
Turkish people are very much like Italian people. We are also not very different than the Greek.

Since the fountadion of the Turkish Republic in 1923 Turkia has turned its face towards Europe. Since then our aim is to find the modernism no matter in which part it is on the world.

Atatürk has set the aim of the Turkish Nation: Çağdaş uygarlık seviyesine ulaşmak. "To reach the most modern level of civilization."
He wanted to see the Turkish Republic competing with the most modern nations. Many people including me have now the same dream.

In the past 83 years of the Republic we have gone a lot, maybe so much it would take other nations 500 years, but we still have a long way to go.

Atatürk, the founder of the Turkish Republic has introduced many revolutions to change the nation. One of them was the change of the Arabic alphabet in 1928.

I don't know if you could possibly understand how I feel when looking at these letters below now. The change was so dramatic, it was like a dream, like a journey from the darkness into the light.


ﺍ ﺀ ﺏ ﭖ ﺕ ﺙ ﺝ ﭺ ﺡ ﺥ ﺩ ﺫ ﺭ ﺯ ﮊ ﺱ ﺵ ﺹ ﺽ ﻁ ﻅ ﻉ ﻍ ﻑ ﻕ ﻙ ﮒ ﯓ ﻝ ﻡ ﻥ ﻭ ﻩ ﻻ ﻯ


a b c ç d e f g ğ h ı i j k l m n o ö p r s ş t u ü v y z


http://www.business-with-turkey.com/tourist-guide/turkish_language.shtml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Turkish_language

Quote:


http://www.ataturk.com/index2.html
Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, the founder of the Turkish Republic and its first President, stands as a towering figure of the 20th Century. Among the great leaders of history, few have achieved so much in so short period, transformed the life of a nation as decisively, and given such profound inspiration to the world at large.

Emerging as a military hero at the Dardanelles in 1915, he became the charismatic leader of the Turkish national liberation struggle in 1919. He blazed across the world scene in the early 1920s as a triumphant commander who crushed the invaders of his country. Following a series of impressive victories against all odds, he led his nation to full independence. He put an end to the antiquated Ottoman dynasty whose tale had lasted more than six centuries - and created the Republic of Turkey in 1923, establishing a new government truly representative of the nation's will.

As President for 15 years, until his death in 1938, Mustafa Kemal Atatürk introduced a broad range of swift and sweeping reforms - in the political, social, legal, economic, and cultural spheres - virtually unparalleled in any other country.

3.       fazi
24 posts
 28 Oct 2005 Fri 07:44 pm

İ can say that everything what Erdinc said about Turkish people is right in every word. only one thing.....Turks are not like İtalian or Greek or any other nation - they are unique as all Turkey is. And this is why İ love it.

4.       erdinc
2151 posts
 28 Oct 2005 Fri 08:25 pm

Quote:

İ can say that everything what Erdinc said about Turkish people is right in every word. only one thing.....Turks are not like İtalian or Greek or any other nation - they are unique as all Turkey is. And this is why İ love it.



Thank you fazi for your comment. Of course you are right by saying Turks are unique.

What I wanted to say is that Turks are much more closer to Italians and Greek than Iranian, Iraqian, Syrian and Arabian.

5.       Joey
0 posts
 28 Oct 2005 Fri 10:45 pm

Erdinc was spot on. Religion has nothing to do with it.

6.       Seticio
550 posts
 29 Oct 2005 Sat 10:21 am

First time I see arabic alphabet writen from left to righ

7.       duskahvesi
858 posts
 29 Oct 2005 Sat 11:18 am

no
it is written from right to left....

8.       Attila
144 posts
 01 Nov 2005 Tue 12:20 am

It has nothing to do with religion,as someone(who?) previously said.Turkey is not a theocracit country who stinks of piss,opposite,it is a unique place where hell loads of different people can live not in harmony but without harming(each other).

BTW

Many people consider themselves as European and Many as Arabic-Persian

But the truth which they cannot evade is their ancestral past from the "steppes"(instead of deserts and stones) will catch them one day

Ahhh nevermind,too hard to tell what I mean to a non-turk


9.       ramayan
2633 posts
 14 Nov 2005 Mon 01:38 am

in appearance turks may look like european but in sense and moral way we think like asian....i dont mean in religious way....we turks came from steppes and after the collapse of ottoman empire we gave a great war against illetaracy and we changed our alphabet we tried to change our mentality and our phisical apperance...but think we cant achieve this....and perhaps i think we lost our own personality....this is because why earopeans like us more than persian or arabic...but this is also why they interest in us....
maybe we ask foreigners about that????its sometimes be nonsense to talk about that as a turk
thx

10.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 24 Nov 2005 Thu 12:42 am

Quoting ramayan:

in appearance turks may look like european but in sense and moral way we think like asian....i dont mean in religious way....we turks came from steppes and after the collapse of ottoman empire we gave a great war against illetaracy and we changed our alphabet we tried to change our mentality and our phisical apperance...but think we cant achieve this....and perhaps i think we lost our own personality....this is because why earopeans like us more than persian or arabic...but this is also why they interest in us....
maybe we ask foreigners about that????its sometimes be nonsense to talk about that as a turk
thx



wow... u really do know that i thought ramayan...
i think that turkish people dont look european though... they have a very dark appearance whereas many europeans have the blonde hair: blue eyes thang going on...

and did the language and alphabet really change?? i heard that there was proof that adam and eve spoke turkish therefore turkish being the first language...?

and yeah... i agree türkiye is definitely trying to change itself to become more european/ american... im very scared that it will completely lose its culture... :S

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