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1.       juliacernat
424 posts
 09 Oct 2006 Mon 12:44 pm

merhaba!

I would appreciate if sb could explain the way "can" and "cannot" forms in Turkce.
I know the possibility is expressed by "-ebilir"+ the sufixes for each person.
What about impossibility? Which is the rule?


Cok tesekkur ederim.

2.       aslan2
507 posts
 09 Oct 2006 Mon 12:56 pm

Quoting juliacernat:

merhaba!

I would appreciate if sb could explain the way "can" and "cannot" forms in Turkce.
I know the possibility is expressed by "-ebilir"+ the sufixes for each person.
What about impossibility? Which is the rule?


Cok tesekkur ederim.



V + -ebil-mek (positive)
V + -eme-mek (negative)

When you know this, everything is as simple as knowing how to conjugate a verb. That's it.

Yes we have an irregularity here.

Azeri Turkish for example has only one form.

V + -ebil-mek

In Azeri
bilebilmirem (I cannot know)
In our Turkish
bilemem or bilemiyorum (I cannot know)

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3.       deli
5904 posts
 09 Oct 2006 Mon 01:02 pm

for example

i dont i cant


gelmem gelEmem

yapmazsin yapAmazsin
yurumez yuruyEmez
koymayiz koyAmayiz
soylemezsiniz soyleyEmezsiniz
vermezler verEmezler


i hope this helps, notice the inclusion of E after the stem of the verb

4.       deli
5904 posts
 09 Oct 2006 Mon 01:04 pm

opps to late again, and sorry about my computer skills , they are even worse than my turkish :-S

5.       boradiz
121 posts
 09 Oct 2006 Mon 01:06 pm

Hi deli
Typing corrections

yurumez yuruyEmez
koymayiz koyAmazyiz koyamayız

6.       deli
5904 posts
 09 Oct 2006 Mon 01:11 pm

opps yes i forgot the y in between :-S

and with me and we ,we leave out the z

7.       aslan2
507 posts
 09 Oct 2006 Mon 01:16 pm

Quoting deli:

opps to late again, and sorry about my computer skils are even worse than my turkish :-S


Too late for what? You wanted to correct a typo? There should be a Modify selection for your post. Haven't you noticed it?

8.       deli
5904 posts
 09 Oct 2006 Mon 01:20 pm

i just mean i take to long to to explain myself thats all.

9.       juliacernat
424 posts
 09 Oct 2006 Mon 05:48 pm

uzgunum, ama......
still not too clear for me...
could you conjugate a verb?
GELMEK-possibility:

gel-ebilir-im
gel-ebilir-sin
gel-ebilir
gel-ebilir-iz
gel-ebilir-siniz
gel-ebilir-ler

how about the impossibility? which is the mechanism???

tesekkurler

10.       aslan2
507 posts
 09 Oct 2006 Mon 06:01 pm

Quoting juliacernat:

uzgunum, ama......
still not too clear for me...
could you conjugate a verb?
GELMEK-possibility:

gel-ebilir-im
gel-ebilir-sin
gel-ebilir
gel-ebilir-iz
gel-ebilir-siniz
gel-ebilir-ler

how about the impossibility? which is the mechanism???

tesekkurler


Gel-eme-mek
Verb stem is geleme. Then add the suffixes.
Ex:
Gel-eme-di (past)
Gel-eme-yecek (future)
Gel-emi-yor (present continous)
Gel-eme-miş (reported past)
Gel-eme-z (present)
etc.
You would do it like any other negative verb.

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