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Now about the negative...
1.       shannonq
23 posts
 18 Oct 2006 Wed 04:59 pm

Ohhhh, if my Turkish teacher realized I was such an idiot. OK, now if I wanted to make "gitmek" into a negative statment, would it then be "gitmiyorum"? çok teşekkulur!!!!

2.       elone
47 posts
 18 Oct 2006 Wed 05:12 pm

Quoting shannonq:

Ohhhh, if my Turkish teacher realized I was such an idiot. OK, now if I wanted to make "gitmek" into a negative statment, would it then be "gitmiyorum"? çok teşekkulur!!!!



YES "gitmiyorum" is correct. you are a very clever student

but "teşekkulur" is wrong

"teşekkürler" is correct

3.       delimanyak
66 posts
 18 Oct 2006 Wed 05:15 pm

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4.       shannonq
23 posts
 18 Oct 2006 Wed 05:16 pm

Quoting elone:

Quoting shannonq:

Ohhhh, if my Turkish teacher realized I was such an idiot. OK, now if I wanted to make "gitmek" into a negative statment, would it then be "gitmiyorum"? çok teşekkulur!!!!



YES "gitmiyorum" is correct. you are a very clever student

but "teşekkulur" is wrong

"teşekkürler" is correct



Teşekküler!!! ;

5.       shannonq
23 posts
 18 Oct 2006 Wed 05:20 pm

Delimanyak...uh-oh! I think you're getting into territory that we haven't covered in class yet. You wrote "gitmek-gitmemek" and I don't know what you mean. Does gitmemek just mean to NOT go? Like altlamak would become atlamamak? (My Turkish husband, by the way, thinks I'm nuts for attempting to learn this language.)

6.       CANLI
5084 posts
 18 Oct 2006 Wed 08:48 pm

Quoting shannonq:

Delimanyak...uh-oh! I think you're getting into territory that we haven't covered in class yet. You wrote "gitmek-gitmemek" and I don't know what you mean. Does gitmemek just mean to NOT go? Like altlamak would become atlamamak? (My Turkish husband, by the way, thinks I'm nuts for attempting to learn this language.)



İ think you are wise for doing so

İ don't know what Delimanyak said,for he,or she deleted it,but if it was 'gitmek-gitmemek'

Then he,she is right.
Gitmek is mastar,infinitive,and when you want to put the infinitive in the negative form,it would still be infinitive too,but negative.

So gitmek...is to go
GitMEmek...is NOT to go.

İn Turkish there is some understanding other than English,
İn English,we add not to the sentence for to make it negative
But in Turkish the look at it as they are producing another verb by adding the nagative suffix (me,ma ) to it.
so it's totally a new verb now,meaning NOT doing something,not just a NOT adding it to the main verb as in English.
Yes i know it may show that the result is same,but the difference is,in Türkçe we can add another suffix,like Zaman,'tenses' and you get confused which to put first,
When understanding that the (me,ma ) made new verb then you know,you must put the negative suffix first,because its now part of the main verb.

And yes,it goes for every verb
Like altlamak would become atlamamak
Gelmek become gelMEmek
Kalmak become kalMAmak.
And so on.

The negative suffix is (ma,me) and note the vowel harmony
Except with (yor ) zaman,it become (mI ) and again note the vowel harmony,but its always at same place,after the root verb,because as i said,we are producing a new verb

Gitmek.. infinitive
Git..is the root verb .

Kolay gelsin

7.       Elisa
0 posts
 18 Oct 2006 Wed 09:43 pm

Quoting shannonq:

(My Turkish husband, by the way, thinks I'm nuts for attempting to learn this language.)



Now isn't that a considerate remark!

8.       deli
5904 posts
 18 Oct 2006 Wed 09:49 pm

my old man just says ,im nuts,no reason, just nuts

9.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 18 Oct 2006 Wed 11:33 pm

Quoting shannonq:

Quoting elone:

"teşekkulur" is wrong

"teşekkürler" is correct



Teşekküler!!! ;



10.       aslan2
507 posts
 19 Oct 2006 Thu 08:02 am

Quoting CANLI:


İn Turkish there is some understanding other than English,
İn English,we add not to the sentence for to make it negative
But in Turkish the look at it as they are producing another verb by adding the nagative suffix (me,ma ) to it.
so it's totally a new verb now,meaning NOT doing something,not just a NOT adding it to the main verb as in English.
Yes i know it may show that the result is same,but the difference is,in Türkçe we can add another suffix,like Zaman,'tenses' and you get confused which to put first,
When understanding that the (me,ma ) made new verb then you know,you must put the negative suffix first,because its now part of the main verb.

And yes,it goes for every verb
Like altlamak would become atlamamak
Gelmek become gelMEmek
Kalmak become kalMAmak.
And so on.

The negative suffix is (ma,me) and note the vowel harmony
Except with (yor ) zaman,it become (mI ) and again note the vowel harmony,but its always at same place,after the root verb,because as i said,we are producing a new verb

Gitmek.. infinitive
Git..is the root verb .

Kolay gelsin


Very good observation CANLI. That explains you have made a good progress already.
Yes negative verb is very much like ordinary verbs. There are some small differences when making questions:

-ir/-er becomes -mez for present tense
-ebilmek becomes -ememek for potential/probability.

And the passive voice is also similarly done. You add -(i)n- or -il- suffix to the verb and you treat it as just another verb. All you need to do is how to conjugate a verb. That's it.
de-mek -- say
de-n-mek -- be said (after a vowel -(i)n- is used)
Onu dedim -- I said it.
O dendi -- It was said.

bil-mek -- know
bil-in-mek -- be known (after l -(i)n- is used)
Onu iyi bilirim -- I know it well
O iyi bilinir -- It is known well.

ver-mek -- give
ver-il-mek -- be given (othwerwise -il- is used)
ona bir kitap verdim -- I gave her a book.
ona bir kitap verildi -- She was given a book.

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