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01 Nov 2006 Wed 02:46 pm |
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the harmony vowels. is that just the shape of your month and the pronounciation of the word? and after you have learnt that what is the easiest way round learning turkish. I mean what would you think to be the next step?
thanks all of you. i know i'm diffucult!!!
love danni xxx
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01 Nov 2006 Wed 03:05 pm |
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Quoting danni-gal: the harmony vowels. is that just the shape of your month and the pronounciation of the word? and after you have learnt that what is the easiest way round learning turkish. I mean what would you think to be the next step?
thanks all of you. i know i'm diffucult!!!
love danni xxx |
İts close to what you are saying,but its to know when to use the hard or the soft vowel too,
İn Turkish,we add suffix to the word,as tenses,plural,negative...ect
To know which vowel you need to use with which,need understanding for the vowel harmony rule,
İts the way of pronouncing the word in the right way,
You cann't use a soft vowel,with a word need a hard vowel,even it would be strange when you hear it too.
Vowels harmony
Next step after understanding the vowel harmony,in my opinion,that you understand that the Turkish languge depend on the suffix,and you know the suffix of each case,
And you understand that you add the suffix after the verb root,and for the negative suffix,it come first before tenses or what so ever.
Then try to read some text,to get the sentence order,which is different than English,
Mostly always the verb come last.
You follow the learn Turkish section here,and it would be a good start,and what ever you need,come and post in the languge forum,and inşallah,you will get all the help you need.
Kollay gelsin 
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01 Nov 2006 Wed 04:36 pm |
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Quoting CANLI:
İts close to what you are saying,but its to know when to use the hard or the soft vowel too,
İn Turkish,we add suffix to the word,as tenses,plural,negative...ect
To know which vowel you need to use with which,need understanding for the vowel harmony rule,
İts the way of pronouncing the word in the right way,
You cann't use a soft vowel,with a word need a hard vowel,even it would be strange when you hear it too.
Vowels harmony
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In Turkish we say "ince sesli" (soft vowel) and "kalın sesli" (hard vowel). They are usually called back and front vowels in English. You position your tongue at the rear to say a back vowel and at the front for a front one. "Büyük ünlü uyumu" (Major vowel harmony) based on this fact. You shouldn't cross back front boundary. When the first syllable has a back vowel all the following syllables should have back vowels. The result is you say words more easily (or with less effort) because you don't have to move your tongue back and forth.
Back = e i ö ü (also called dotted vowels)
Front = a ı o u (also called dotless vowels)
Examples
bir-leş-tir-mek
gö-rün-tü-le-mek
su-lan-dır-mak
so-ruş-tur-mak
etc.
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03 Nov 2006 Fri 01:39 pm |
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In Turkish we say "ince sesli" (soft vowel) and "kalın sesli" (hard vowel). They are usually called back and front vowels in English. You position your tongue at the rear to say a back vowel and at the front for a front one. "Büyük ünlü uyumu" (Major vowel harmony) based on this fact. You shouldn't cross back front boundary. When the first syllable has a back vowel all the following syllables should have back vowels. The result is you say words more easily (or with less effort) because you don't have to move your tongue back and forth.
Back = e i ö ü (also called dotted vowels)
Front = a ı o u (also called dotless vowels)
Examples
bir-leş-tir-mek
gö-rün-tü-le-mek
su-lan-dır-mak
so-ruş-tur-mak
etc.
so every vowel in one word, would they all be soft vowels. Would you not be able to mix the soft or hard vowels together? or maybe a soft and back vowel?
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03 Nov 2006 Fri 01:54 pm |
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so every vowel in one word, would they all be soft vowels. Would you not be able to mix the soft or hard vowels together? or maybe a soft and back vowel? |
Normally you wouldn't. Of course there are exceptions.
Foreign words are exceptions (if they don't have all back or all front vowels by chance). But we try to make them follow this rule.
Examples:
Pırlanta ( < Brillante )
Avrupa ( < Europa )
sayfa ( < sahife )
fayda ( < faide )
And there are some Turkish words that don't follow this rule (but not many).
Examples:
Anne
Elma
And there some suffixes that doesn't follow this rule (not many).
Examples:
Geli-yor
Yapar-ken
Akşam-ki
Back = soft
Front = hard
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03 Nov 2006 Fri 02:10 pm |
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Thanks. That's much more clear now. Thankyou Canli and aslan2. you a great help.
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