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10.       oceanmavi
997 posts
 15 Mar 2006 Wed 07:31 pm

Quoting Aenigma:

Well... this could be the case. However, as an example, at least 3 people (lodgers and friends) have accessed this site using their own log-in - all using my computer. That may be the case with Isam and Ottoman Bayan???



but why would they both send the same private messege? although i guess he could have forgotton to log out and back in as himself...its strange..

11.       Mandy
3 posts
 15 Mar 2006 Wed 07:49 pm

12.       bod
5999 posts
 15 Mar 2006 Wed 08:14 pm

Quoting erdinc:

Yes I can confirm from IP adresses that these two nicknames are connecting from the same computer.



I'm sorry Erdinç but that doesn't actually mean anything!!! The IP address that is seen by a web server is very rarely (if ever) the IP address of the machine of the user - it is the IP address of the server that the user connects to out on the new......

If you want to find the IP address of your own machine you can do so as follows:
Start->Run
type 'cmd' and click OK
in the window that appears type 'ipconfig' and press enter

The above will give you the IP address of your computer.
Now go to this webpage that I have just written to demonstarte this - it will show you the IP address as the website sees it.......and they will almost certainly be different!!!

Many users will appear to have the same IP address in fact!

13.       mara
145 posts
 15 Mar 2006 Wed 09:10 pm

I guess if it wasn't true he would have deffended by now.. but i see he didn't write anything here yet although it is an old topic(1 month)... Does he need a special invitation or something? If he doesn't say aything i think it is normal to say he is guilty. But he should at least tell us some of his reasons for which he is doing this .

14.       Boop
785 posts
 15 Mar 2006 Wed 09:36 pm

Forgive me for my naivety - but what exactly is his 'crime' - what are they guilty of?? We are all here under an 'assumed' name so what is the problem?

15.       mara
145 posts
 15 Mar 2006 Wed 09:48 pm

Maybe guilty is not the right word , maybe it is too strong..i am not so good at english u are.
on this treat the discusion is : is otoman bayan and isam the same person or not. And what i wanna say is that if he didn't comment anything here than what cyrano and erdinic are saying can be right. Don't worry .. by sayign GUILTY i didn't want to say we need to punish him in any way for using 2 names ... the only problem would be the way a person uses the 2 identities .. but that's another story and i don't wanna go farther and judge a person .

I also wanna say that it depends what u understand by " crime" .. if u understand not respecting a law.. no matter if it is a law from the state or from a web site.. then i guess it is in the end actualy a crime . You should look if u want at the TC rules , and u will see the first rule is :
<<<1. Multiple registrations are prohibited and are grounds for immediate account deletion. >>>
ups so i guess it can be considered like a crime and i guess the admins here were very good with this person not deleting his accountS .. or maybe they didn't do it cause they want more prooves.


16.       Aenigma
0 posts
 15 Mar 2006 Wed 10:30 pm

Oooo i tried to have a break from this site - but this is just too delicious! How wonderful and clever of Isam/Ottoman Bayan always to have a "friend" who agrees with him/her!. As long as he/she (?) didn't hurt anyone, then really it is very funny .

Hmmmm - maybe you - ALL OF YOU - are just one person....
Oooooooooo

17.       Elisa
0 posts
 15 Mar 2006 Wed 10:48 pm

Quoting Aenigma:

Hmmmm - maybe you - ALL OF YOU - are just one person....
Oooooooooo



with a severe multiple personality disorder

schizo

18.       sophie
2712 posts
 15 Mar 2006 Wed 11:17 pm

I always had the impression that Ottoman was a woman and Isam a man.
Anyway, whatever they are, roommates, friends or just the two personalities of a single person, they succeeded! They got us all wondering what they are and talking about them. Aferin! They became the faces of the week (i still use 'they').
And the oscar goes tooooooo.....

19.       Aenigma
0 posts
 16 Mar 2006 Thu 12:10 am

Me too Sophie - Isam was a man, Ottoman a women!! Ooo next week I shall be .. NORMAN He will agree with EVERYTHING Aenigma says and maybe sometimes get a little flirty lol

20.       erdinc
2151 posts
 16 Mar 2006 Thu 12:10 am

Quoting bod:

and they will almost certainly be different!!!

Many users will appear to have the same IP address in fact!


No bod,
they are completely the same IP. The IP of my machine is the same as the one I see on that site. Idon't know if this is the case with all static IP's.

I'm checking IP's for months and I havent seen two identical IP's many times.

The person uses static IP. This means that IP remains the same for all times. I have a unique IP adress for two years. Nobody else in the world can have the same IP address as me. Many service providers in the UK work with static IP addresses. The person connects from the UK and has static IP. If you have a dynamic IP then each time you reset your modem (each time you reconnect) you get a new IP adress.

Even if you have dynamic IP there is no possibility for two of our members to have the same same IP at any time. In fact nobody else has.

Here is a fictional IP adress:
66.237.58.204

Assuming there is a user A and a user B. Both have dynamic IP adresses. Currently user A's IP is 66.237.58.204. Again assume they are both members of our web site and are located at the same area. User A establistes connection and gets the IP with...204 and then disconnects. Now user B gets connected. What is the possibility for user B to have the IP adress 66.237.58.204 ?

Statistically I don't think it is possible for two of our members to have the same IP since this would be 1/(255*255)= 1/65025 possibility which is %0.0015 if the two users are using the same service provider and are connection from the same area.

What is the possibility of to different users to have the same IP after one mimute or two minutes?

As far as I know the first three sections from left are assigned to the country and service provider. The last section is given to a certain user. If the service provider uses dynamic IP than you will get for instance a day the number 66.237.58.185 and another day the number 66.237.58.245 The last three digits will change.
Of course you might as well get a completely different adress since your service provider has many different addresses.

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