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Thread: 6 More deaths :(

51.       WarTrain
325 posts
 09 Oct 2008 Thu 02:58 pm

 

Quoting mltm

 Sometimes I´m thinking as well if it would be better this way.

 

 Yes, I think we should maybe consider this in England too.  The immigrant Turks and muslims should have their own section right, perhaps called Englastan....?

 

{#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

 



Thread: 6 More deaths :(

52.       WarTrain
325 posts
 09 Oct 2008 Thu 02:52 pm

 

Quoting Merih

 I totally agree.. we were discussing PKK, and suddenly thesepeople came in to legitimise the actions of PKK syaing that all the kurds suffer in Turkey.

 

 Who exactly is legitimising the actions of the PKK?  please could you quote the posts and "people" you are referring to?

 

It seems you only read, what you want to see, not what is actually written.  Turkish paranoia at work



Thread: 6 More deaths :(

53.       WarTrain
325 posts
 09 Oct 2008 Thu 02:51 pm

 

Quoting Merih

 i am not personally doing, and I don´t like anyone in my country or another country...

 

But since, you are so sure that we turkish are harassing the kurds every moment we find, then surely you are the racist..  because you are prejudice.  You don´t even doubt that, what we turks say can have a point as well..

 

(1) I never said such a thing.

(2) You are now acknowledging there is a racism problem in Turkey?

(3) Again you say "we Turkish" and "Kurds" which just shows you do not consider them to be Turkish citizens, even though they are born in Turkey same as you.

(4) The only "point" I can see you making is that you are trying to deny problems that do exist.

 

 



Thread: 6 More deaths :(

54.       WarTrain
325 posts
 09 Oct 2008 Thu 02:42 pm

 

Quoting Merih

 Yes, Mr. Ostrich, you are right.. and the solution to the racism in Turkey is PKK....

{#lang_emotions_head_bang}

 

 I am a Miss actually

 

And... your sarcasm about PKK only proves that you think all Kurds support them!!!  Do I blame all muslims for 9/11 or 7/7 bombings?  So why do you do it with PKK eh?



Thread: 6 More deaths :(

55.       WarTrain
325 posts
 09 Oct 2008 Thu 02:38 pm

 

Quoting SuiGeneris

The stop talking to me! its very shame of you to call me as an ostrich! This conversation is now over!

 

 lol lol lol



Thread: 6 More deaths :(

56.       WarTrain
325 posts
 09 Oct 2008 Thu 02:35 pm

 

Quoting SuiGeneris

Does that racism is only Kurdish people? Have any of you made a post about Israili government bombing half of Lebanon for only 2 soldiers?

 

 

You are only losing yourself in minor details also with digging our sentences... The citizens living on the south east region has a right that there was no enough investments and labour in those area... The rest is nonsense! if you are tend to make militia... you can make it for any reason! but if you are after your rights! there are far more effective ways that using weapons!

 

 Did anyone say it was only about Kurdish people?  The subject here was about Turkey, but we have discussed racism and police in most other countries on this forum before.

 

It seems only Turkey does not have a problem with this lol lol

 

It is useless to argue with ostriches... they will not take their heads out of the sand.



Thread: 6 More deaths :(

57.       WarTrain
325 posts
 09 Oct 2008 Thu 02:27 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

Racism is much more than that! It´s also racism where only dark(er) skinned people have their tickets checked in public transport, or when a bus driver waits for a late coming white passenger but suddenly ´have to drive due to his schedule´ when a dark(er) person tries to catch that bus. It are not only the big things like jobs or being treated like a terrorist, in fact all these smaller things cause much more harm in society AND for the single person involved!

 

 + 10000000000000000000



Thread: 6 More deaths :(

58.       WarTrain
325 posts
 09 Oct 2008 Thu 02:24 pm

 

Quoting Merih

 We can´t judge a nation because of some irresponsible people.  I am sorry that you have suffered and still suffering.. but do you really think fighting with the military forces, killing people , and getting a land???? would solve your problems?  Then nobody can come and ask your ID??  That´s what I was saying, we have to educate the people.  Look at the big picture.. Your people are all around Turkey.. will they come back if you own a land?  Do you think it is easy?  Where will you study?  Who will provide you all the services which were provided to you by the Turkish government.. good or bad, you had something..

You know what I believe, if there was to be a partition, none of the educated Kurds, or the ones well settled all around Turkey will go back there.. The poor little village people only cares about their own living.. and who will get use of the land?  Think about it.. big picture///

 

 Merih you just showed yourself to be the bitter racist that you are!!!!  You talk to Ciko about "your people" and saying how much the "Turkish government" do for him?

 

HE IS TURKISH TOO!!!! His government is the Turkish government. 

 

You talk about racism being rare - and  yet you don´t realise it yourself that you are one - and that you are unable to view kurds as Turkish citizens...



Thread: 6 More deaths :(

59.       WarTrain
325 posts
 09 Oct 2008 Thu 02:18 pm

 

Quoting Merih

What do you know about our police or anything, and who are you to judge what is going on?  ....

 

you know nothing about racism, it is there mostly in the developed countries..

 

 How do you know what I know, or don´t know eh?  You are the ignorant one if you believe what you wrote above.

 

Racism is not just about the things you listed, (or Sui´s idea that it is about sending ethnics to prison!!!).  It is everywhere, particular within police forces.  In the UK racism among police is a big problem, and I KNOW it is also a problem in Turkey and Ciko´s post confirms it.  It is not about detaining people...it is about abusing your power by bullying and intimidation.

 



Thread: 6 More deaths :(

60.       WarTrain
325 posts
 09 Oct 2008 Thu 01:55 pm

 

Quoting SuiGeneris

 

but for other rules, like the abuse of police and etc... near your being kurd, turk and laz doesnt have the major role... what you do, how you behave...

 

You are living in a dream world if you believe this!  Are you trying to tell me that the police are not racist? lol

 

I have news for you - nearly ALL police in any country are racist!



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