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220.       _AE_
677 posts
 29 Aug 2009 Sat 03:36 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 

One doesn´t have to be religious to have certain morality, though that is obviously a bridge too far to understand for you.

 

Another question.  What did I write that was so upsetting to you that you felt you had to question MY  morality?

 

221.       Trudy
7887 posts
 29 Aug 2009 Sat 03:38 pm

 

Quoting _AE_

 

 

 This doesn´t really answer my question - why are you so bothered by it?  Why does it affect YOU and your sex life?

 

 Anything - wrongly told - about women does effect my life. It effects ideas how people - all over the world - look at women, see them as second class people, treat them as second class people, treat them as if they are not mature enough to make decisions by themselves. But probably you are too self-centred to see things in a broader view.

222.       Trudy
7887 posts
 29 Aug 2009 Sat 03:43 pm

 

Quoting _AE_

 

 

Another question.  What did I write that was so upsetting to you that you felt you had to question MY  morality?

 

 

Dear, you are not important enough to upset me, at most you annoy me (to death). However the fact that you combine being non-religieus automatically with loose morality (quote: ´you can shag whenever and however as you want´ unquote) means for me you´re not able to discuss something in an adult way. Have it your way, I can pretend you are mature.

223.       _AE_
677 posts
 29 Aug 2009 Sat 03:44 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 

 

 Anything - wrongly told - about women does effect my life. It effects ideas how people - all over the world - look at women, see them as second class people, treat them as second class people, treat them as if they are not mature enough to make decisions by themselves. But probably you are too self-centred to see things in a broader view.

 

 Again you are name calling to make your point?  This is the best you can do? 

 

I agree with your comments to a certain extent, in general.  However, firstly prove that this is "wrongly told".  Secondly, whilst there are extremes in any religion, if women CHOOSE to follow a certain religion then respect that choice, don´t mock it.  Instead of embracing women of all cultures, ages and race, you are merely holding yourself up as the perfect example and ridiculing others who are not like and do not think, like you.  I see this as a negative rather than positive towards women.  If you think that you are "educating" women with your attitude you are wrong.  You are alienating them.  You won´t change anything by mocking people.

 

Lastly, does your "freedom" make you happier than other women?  You don´t seem to be a very happy person to me.  Is this the price you pay?



Edited (8/29/2009) by _AE_

224.       Trudy
7887 posts
 29 Aug 2009 Sat 03:46 pm

 

Quoting _AE_

 

 

 Again you are name calling to make your point?  This is the best you can do? 

 

 

 Learned it from the master herself.

225.       bydand
755 posts
 29 Aug 2009 Sat 03:48 pm

The Koran seems open to different interpretations and having read the several english explanations of al-baqarah 2/222 bissane seems to have got it right.

Welcome to TLC bissane by the way and prepare yourself for some flak. Flowers

 

Don´t worry about Trudy...she had a bad experience at a mosque once.Big smile

226.       _AE_
677 posts
 29 Aug 2009 Sat 03:55 pm

 Posted three times by mistake :S



Edited (8/29/2009) by _AE_

227.       _AE_
677 posts
 29 Aug 2009 Sat 03:55 pm

OMG what happened!!!



Edited (8/29/2009) by _AE_

228.       _AE_
677 posts
 29 Aug 2009 Sat 03:55 pm

 Sorry - weird connection problem! Posted three times.



Edited (8/29/2009) by _AE_

229.       _AE_
677 posts
 29 Aug 2009 Sat 03:57 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 

 

Dear, you are not important enough to upset me, at most you annoy me (to death). However the fact that you combine being non-religieus automatically with loose morality (quote: ´you can shag whenever and however as you want´ unquote) means for me you´re not able to discuss something in an adult way. Have it your way, I can pretend you are mature.

 

 Where did you imagine you saw me equating loose morality with non-religious people?   You were saying that it is quite ok to have sex during menstration and I replied that if you do not have this as a religious rule you are free to have sex whenever and however you want.  Where does this say that if you do this you have no morals, or multiple partners?

 

The only immature poster I see in this discussion is YOU



Edited (8/29/2009) by _AE_

230.       Trudy
7887 posts
 29 Aug 2009 Sat 04:12 pm

 

Quoting _AE_

You don´t seem to be a very happy person to me. 

 

 And I´m oh so happy you don´t know me.

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