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Turkish soldiers killed at border today...
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22 Oct 2007 Mon 05:08 pm |
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This IS racism.
Quoting AlphaF: I am a Turk and I have no objection to PKK having their own independent country, including a piece from Republic of Turkey. |
You are calling all Kurdish as PKK.
Quoting AlphaF: Of the luckier Kurds who enjoy Turkish passports, the smarter ones have the intelligence to look around and compare status of Turkish, Syrian, Iraqi and Irani Kurds...They know they are comperatively way better off in Turkey, and that their life in SE ANATOLIA is possible only under Turkish sovereignity. |
Patronising in the EXTREME.
Quoting AlphaF:
There are much smarter and stronger other suitors after the same land. Kurds do not have chance.they are just moribund puppets.. |
This is not racist? This is disgusting...
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22 Oct 2007 Mon 05:11 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting CANLI: They are in Heaven now of course,they are Şahid,and that is best degree in İslam. |
Maybe its not always clear to those who have a deep faith, but this kind of thing is VERY offensive to non-muslims. You have your religion and faiths, we have ours.
Who is deserving of being in "heaven" depends on God/Allah - not some man-made section of religious faith.
(I know you would not cause offence deliberately Canli, but I had to express my view)
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İm sorry AEnigma,i dont see how offensive can that be ?
We are talking about Turkish soldiders,which %99 of Turk are Muslims,and even in my reply to femme's post,i was talking about Muslims.
Even they practice or not,but in a war if they die they are Şahid,and they are in Heaven.
That is something condoling to think about,that they are in better place than we already are.
And i can say their familes believe so too.
İ didnt say Muslims are in Heaven and other people are not !
İ just said they are Şahid and in Heaven,that İS what we believe.
Other religions,or non Muslims can believe what they want too,how could this be offensive to them ?!
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22 Oct 2007 Mon 05:17 pm |
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İ had this post in one of the translation requests,and i thought to post it here to have your opinion about it too.
Quoting MrX67: Quoting CANLI: Quoting alperrr: i hope soo .. Turkish army know what they do about this situation. dont worry, we will do that. these terorists wont kill any turkish soldier anymore... |
İ believe as much as i for one was aginist the army interfere in Politics ' in the last election',but this is the army ground,and we all have faith,and trust in the Turkish army.
Just my heart goes out for them ...i wish they dont have to fight and things ends peacfully. |
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İts not closed hearts and minds,its called interests !
Some people and i like the term you used 'blood drinkers 'as you called them benefit behinde wars,and they just try to pull the flame any where their interist is.
İ wish they dont find ground for them there and let this war ends before it starts.
But i must ask,as those torrerist are in the İraqian land, then where is the İraqian army to stop them ?!
İsnt that more appropriate ?
And as we know there is no İraqian army because they are under both the USA and UK protection.. they call it that way dont they ?
So why didnt USA and UK take part in the country they are protecting and bringing justice,democracy to it and stop it from attacking its neighbours ?!
Or maybe there are other calculations ?!
When Turkiye enter the war,the pressure from İraq will go down in both USA and UK sides ?!
So better have another part in İraq like Türkiye ?
mmmm,i dont know,what do you think ?
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22 Oct 2007 Mon 05:21 pm |
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We are sad, unhappy, shocked but if they want to make us frightened by these disgusting attacks,they can only die.After the attack, 32 terrorists were killed.
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22 Oct 2007 Mon 05:25 pm |
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Quoting CANLI: So why didnt USA and UK take part in the country they are protecting and bringing justice,democracy to it and stop it from attacking its neighbours ?! |
Hahahahahaha! I just KNEW IT! I just KNEW it would be the fault of US and UK before long.... 
Aferin sana ! 
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22 Oct 2007 Mon 05:30 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting CANLI: So why didnt USA and UK take part in the country they are protecting and bringing justice,democracy to it and stop it from attacking its neighbours ?! |
Hahahahahaha! I just KNEW IT! I just KNEW it would be the fault of US and UK before long....
Aferin sana ! |
But its not a joke AEnigma,
İts İraq responsibility to stop the terrorism from their country,but we cant demand İraq of that now, can we ?!
Even if we did,they cant do it !
And btw,it IS the fault of US and UK for long ,since they've been in Iraq, that is a FACT.
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22 Oct 2007 Mon 05:33 pm |
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Quoting CANLI: Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting CANLI: So why didnt USA and UK take part in the country they are protecting and bringing justice,democracy to it and stop it from attacking its neighbours ?! |
Hahahahahaha! I just KNEW IT! I just KNEW it would be the fault of US and UK before long....
Aferin sana ! |
But its not a joke AEnigma,
İts İraq responsibility to stop the terrorism from their country,but we cant demand İraq of that now, can we ?!
Even if we did,they cant do it !
And btw,it IS the fault of US and UK for long ,since they've been in Iraq, that is a FACT. |
How do you stop all terrorism. Yes I agree that the UK should not be in Iraq. However, you cannot try to blame them for terrorist attacks. Do you blame Turkey for PKK attacks on tourist resorts last year?
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22 Oct 2007 Mon 05:36 pm |
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Maybe its not always clear to those who have a deep faith, but this kind of thing is VERY offensive to non-muslims. You have your religion and faiths, we have ours.
Who is deserving of being in "heaven" depends on God/Allah - not some man-made section of religious faith.
(I know you would not cause offence deliberately Canli, but I had to express my view)
Not sure who said this but i quote ' RELIGION WILL TOLERATE ATHEISTS AND AGNOSTICS BUT NOT OTHER RELIGIONS' unquote. How true is that.
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22 Oct 2007 Mon 05:37 pm |
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Quoting CANLI: İ had this post in one of the translation requests,and i thought to post it here to have your opinion about it too.
Quoting MrX67: Quoting CANLI: Quoting alperrr: i hope soo .. Turkish army know what they do about this situation. dont worry, we will do that. these terorists wont kill any turkish soldier anymore... |
İ believe as much as i for one was aginist the army interfere in Politics ' in the last election',but this is the army ground,and we all have faith,and trust in the Turkish army.
Just my heart goes out for them ...i wish they dont have to fight and things ends peacfully. |
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İts not closed hearts and minds,its called interests !
Some people and i like the term you used 'blood drinkers 'as you called them benefit behinde wars,and they just try to pull the flame any where their interist is.
İ wish they dont find ground for them there and let this war ends before it starts.
But i must ask,as those torrerist are in the İraqian land, then where is the İraqian army to stop them ?!
İsnt that more appropriate ?
And as we know there is no İraqian army because they are under both the USA and UK protection.. they call it that way dont they ?
So why didnt USA and UK take part in the country they are protecting and bringing justice,democracy to it and stop it from attacking its neighbours ?!
Or maybe there are other calculations ?!
When Turkiye enter the war,the pressure from İraq will go down in both USA and UK sides ?!
So better have another part in İraq like Türkiye ?
mmmm,i dont know,what do you think ? |
Canli, I have no problem with you mentioning faith or religion. This doesn't offend me in any way.
But you may not realize what has been going on in Iraq and you ask "Why doesn't the Iraqi military stop them" ? They are trying to rebuild a country at the present time and are dealing with enough terrorism within their own country.
Northern Iraq is one of the most stable parts of the country, currently. You ask why the US or UK doesn't intervene? There is your answer..Maybe not the answer your looking for, however. When I hear so much criticism from other members about the U.S. being the WorldPolice well it's time we stopped.
I can't wait for our soldiers to return home and get the hell out of Iraq and other Middle Eastern countries. Leave the fighting in the name of Allah & land for these countries to battle.
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22 Oct 2007 Mon 05:37 pm |
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Quoting Janette1169:
Not sure who said this but i quote ' RELIGION WILL TOLERATE ATHEISTS AND AGNOSTICS BUT NOT OTHER RELIGIONS' unquote. How true is that. |
+100000000000. Muslims pray for "all other muslims". Other religions pray for "all the people in the world". Nice difference 
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22 Oct 2007 Mon 05:38 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting CANLI: Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting CANLI: So why didnt USA and UK take part in the country they are protecting and bringing justice,democracy to it and stop it from attacking its neighbours ?! |
Hahahahahaha! I just KNEW IT! I just KNEW it would be the fault of US and UK before long....
Aferin sana ! |
But its not a joke AEnigma,
İts İraq responsibility to stop the terrorism from their country,but we cant demand İraq of that now, can we ?!
Even if we did,they cant do it !
And btw,it IS the fault of US and UK for long ,since they've been in Iraq, that is a FACT. |
How do you stop all terrorism. Yes I agree that the UK should not be in Iraq. However, you cannot try to blame them for terrorist attacks. Do you blame Turkey for PKK attacks on tourist resorts last year? |
You didnt get it,
İ blam them for İraq not having an army,i dont blam them for terrorist attacks !
İ blam them because Türkey has to enter this war to defend herself,but the right thing was İRAQ should stop it,not Türkey
İts in İraqian landçits their own responsibility.
Cant you see what a mess this is ?
İn the law,if Türkiye attcked PKK in İraqian land,we should blam her,because she crossed the borders,but we DO NO blam her,because if Türkiye didnt defend herself no one else would do
There is no İraqian army .
İts a MESS
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