You have a point. I have also proven how things get out of hand when one personalizes things. It is a lot easier to see the truth when your reason is not jettisoned by the hot wind of debate. I did not want to deny my own thought and make that warning exclusively for you. I wish that everyone could stop targeting one another. I don´t want either friends or enemies here. "Let´s discuss opinions" still makes sense...

Biased.....you have to be kidding!  That is one of the most hateful  Islamaphobic sites I´ve seen.  It sure looks like a  propaganda site with an agenda.  On the list of recommended books is one by neocon 

Robert Spencer, who is a fan of Gert Wilders....Spencer is also is the director of  jihadwatch....the word biased hardly expresses an accurate discription of the  site.  Other authors are Walid Phares, a former commander of the Lebanese Forces Militia, which was allied with the IDF......now would you think it is possible these people might have an agenda....?

We could go on and on and on.....as we are not supposed to get into religious arguments here, but seeing as you seem to be interested, I suggest you read something by, or you can listen and watch,  Karen Armstrong.  She is a true scholar of comparative religions, and an ex nun who does not have a political agenda....she is a true seeker........or you could read something by a noted Muslim femminist and Muslim scholar,  Riffat Hassan.

 Good links, thanks

I have been extremely go0d and stayed out of this completely OT debate. (Kudos to me.)

However, I cannot help but point out that it is very easy to mix oil and water.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emulsion

Apart from that, I fully respect the right of anyone to believe in their stone-age superstitions religion.

I would ask that they respect my right to regard their beliefs with amused scorn, but they never do. I have read the Koran and personally find it quite ridiculous. However the Bible is *even more* ridiculous (read Genesis 19 for a good laugh... God apparently is a fan of both rape and incest).

Actually that Biblical reference gets me to within shouting distance of the original topic. Yay for me again.

Ohhhh someone fun!!!!  YAY!!!   

Manning, This is the off topic section.  This thread began with a discussion on early marriage, and in typical TC form, digressed.

I do not believe anyone here has demanded of you anything other than what the forum rules require.  Your beliefe status is your business, and the same goes for others.  As I have said numerous times.  I am more interested in promoting tolerance between groups. 

As members of Space Ship Earth,  where we arrive may not be at all pleasant (given all the bloodshed spent in disagreement),  unless we learn to work with some type of harmony.  Orchestra have many instruments, such as violines and  flutes, but they make beautiful music together.  Nature shows us how important diversity is.  Could you live on a diet of only one thing? As the world gets smaller and smaller we are elbow to elbow with many diverse groups, who may or may not agree with us.  One thing that I see as of prime importance is that we learn to live and let live.   Insulting, belittling, or dehumanizing other groups does not promote that goal.  What that does is set up defensive reaction, but little contemplation or introspection.

Religous Tolerance

I found this group that is interesting and respectful discourse on various belief systems....even athiests...

perhaps you would find it interesting and informative.

If I have offended you, please accept my apology.