What do you all think about feminism? I invite all the guys on the site to give their views and understanding of the word.

What would you say if I said that Kemal Atutturk was in fact a feminist way ahead of his time!

Why waste money educating women if all they will do is stay at home and clean and cook and have babies?

Do women have an important role to play in a developing economy?

Should women be religious leaders and if not. Why not?

still men power

Always first with the ascerbic and controversial response heh dusk.....

i just loved the sentence "men power" and when i saw your topicc, i thought i should put this sentence in your topic

its is not just the sentence 'men power' you love it is the meaning behind it I am sure. Come on dusk...give us your real views on feminism. I want a good debate and Seticio will have lots to say to you. I love it when you two fight online, and i am sure you will start a huge online debate

your intentinon was understood to make a debate and watch it
what a nice plan !
ama yemezler

Ok
as I'm back from holidays I can start

Feminism in Turkey is in minority I think.
Most of university student are men. Women also study, but the truth is that, as Duskahvesi has noticed in some other Forum topic, girls have to spent much more their time and strenght to prove that they are as good as men in what they do. And also most of them won't be able to work as much as they would like to, because they have to take care about their homes. Most of them, due to their cultures and the way they were brought up, don't expect any help from their men, because in their homes father generally wasn't helping their mothers. But they are forgotting that 20 years ago, when their parent were getting married, was almost impossible for a girl to go to university.
Unfortunately, girl who are not students are looking for wel-educated boyfriend (the possibility that he will earn quite good money is much higher then) so as to sit at home, cook clean etc and live easily. I've seen it on my own eyes. My boyfriend was chosen by one of this kind of girl as a victim. Unfortunately for this girl my boyfiend a) has already a girlfriend, b) he can cook himself so he doesn't think taking care about the house in only women obligatory.
So Duskahvesi, If you are interested in intelligent, well- educated woman, you should change a little your way of thinking.

This is an interesting topic. I like to discuss these kind things.
I don’t agree with Seticio about most of the university students in Türkiye being male. I haven’t checked the statistics but I believe the females are not far from the half of the students in Turkish Universities. I guess they should be between 40%-50% but if someone would say there are more females I wouldn’t be surprised.

Also I disagree that it was almost impossible for women to go to university in Türkiye in the past. Actually the fundamentalism and the rise of conservatives in politics has began after 1980. Before that, for instance during the 60's and 70's women could easily go to universities and they could wear short skirts or whatsoever.
Both my aunts went to university but my father didn’t. They couldn’t afford to send everyone.
You might imagine Türkiye like an Arabic country which has started to develop in the last 20 years. But that’s not the case.
In the past only 30% of the population were living in the big cities. Now it is 70%. But in the past there were much less fundamentalists in small villages or in big cities.
In some jobs there are more females than males and they paid the some wages. A good example are the primary school teachers.
Unfortunately fundamentalist and conservatists females have become much stronger than they were in the past. Unfortunately the way they live and think doesn’t match the modern world. For instance some of them go to medical schools to become a doctor but they reject to see or touch a male body. In the past you would never see female medical students like these.
The aim of basic education is to help the children to understand the outer world. Children should see the relations between things and should be able to discuss things and say their opinions. Some families might fill the child's mind with unrealistic fantasies. They might prevent the kid to have access to common knowledge and might grow their kids according their fundamental believes.
As a result kids grown in such environments might think drugs shouldn’t be used even for medical purposes, using condoms or any other way to prevent unwanted pregnancy should be banned or when we die in an accident or from illness it is gods will.
Exactly for this reason basic education is a must. This is why the kids must know the world and things how they are. Now imagine the primary school teacher being a fundamentalist, what now?
Believe me in the past nobody would think about this question but now we start to do. So I don’t agree that everything was worse in the past.
The fundamentalist females want more rights and they want to change education, healthcare and public life. Should we give them more rights to accomplish their aims easily.

Well that was an interesting post erdinc. But I think we must make the distinction between fundamentalism and feminism. These women are NOT feminists because they are turning back the clock for their sisters, by continuing fundamental ideas, particurlarly the example you gave about female doctors not touching mens bodies, they are destroying the concept that women can be equal.

I'm appalled!

Maybe we can resurrect the Feminism debate.We don't want to get 'stale'