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'Anatolian women''
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30 May 2007 Wed 10:49 pm |
well said trudy, it was only a question that got asked but never got answered.
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30 May 2007 Wed 10:53 pm |
Quoting Trudy:
Sorry to interfere but if one is only allowed to say something about others if everything is 'peaches and cream' in their own country/situation, then I think everyone should stop talking. |
Im also sorry to interfere.. and I agree with what you say Trudy, but I think Elisa meant something else.
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30 May 2007 Wed 11:08 pm |
Quoting Trudy: Sorry to interfere but if one is only allowed to say something about others if everything is 'peaches and cream' in their own country/situation, then I think everyone should stop talking. |
That is so very much NOT the point here!
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30 May 2007 Wed 11:11 pm |
shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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30 May 2007 Wed 11:31 pm |
You like it or not, but this is how 80% of turkish women are (edit: later I also found that percentage high, I think it's better not to give a percentage). Why would we hide them and show just a little portion of turkish women that are "modern western type dressed" women?
These type of women you would like to see just exist in the cities, not even in anatolian cities. Even in İstanbul, they exist because they have just come from their villages and Turkey is not a country that has completely urbanized.
In Turkey when we say anatolian women, we understand the village people. It's very easy to judge a whole people from outside, but how would you dress like if you were to born in one of these villages? These women work in the fields, carry big loads on their backs, do the house work etc and they don't go to hair dressers. They have been dressing like this since hundreds of years, as someone said, in the east european countries, or in Georgia, in Armenia or in the russian villages, women dress like this as well.
In Turkey only the village girls that are too lucky to win a university education (it costs a lot to pass that exam), go to big cities and dress like the city people. But usually the hopes of these people are small, limited to just being like their mothers, marrying, having children etc. Expecting a turkish village girl to be a big women's right defender is far from reality.
The patriarchy is not a new thing, and it does not exist just in muslum countries. Even in one of the most modern countries France since the middle 1900s women didn't have the right to vote or even to have a bank account in their names.
So, just blaming people just because who they are today is pointless, because I'm sure if you were born as a girl in one of these villages, you wouldn't be what you are today. I think while being a passionate feminist or a women's right defender, you're sometimes being blind.
So, you like it or not, this is the face of Anatolian women, but instead of looking down on them, you can try to understand them.
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30 May 2007 Wed 11:36 pm |
+1000 mltm
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30 May 2007 Wed 11:37 pm |
Quoting mltm: You like it or not, but this is how 80% of turkish women are. Why would we hide them and show just a little portion of turkish women that are "modern western type dressed" women?
These type of women you would like to see just exist in the cities, not even in anatolian cities. Even in İstanbul, they exist because they have just come from their villages and Turkey is not a country that has completely urbanized.
In Turkey when we say anatolian women, we understand the village people. It's very easy to judge a whole people from outside, but how would you dress like if you were to born in one of these villages? These women work in the fields, carry big loads on their backs, do the house work etc and they don't go to hair dressers. They have been dressing like this since hundreds of years, as someone said, in the east european countries, or in Georgia, in Armenia or in the russian villages, women dress like this as well.
In Turkey only the village girls that are too lucky to win a university education (it costs a lot to pass that exam), go to big cities and dress like the city people. But usually the hopes of these people are small, limited to just being like their mothers, marrying, having children etc. Expecting a turkish village girl to be a big woman right defender is far from reality.
The patriarchy is not a new thing, and it does not exist just in muslum countries. Even in one of the most modern countries France since the middle 1900s women didn't have the right to vote or even to have a bank account in their names.
So, just blaming people just because who they are today does not worth anything, because I'm sure if you were born as a girl in one of these villages, you wouldn't be what you are today. I think while being a passionate feminist or a woman right defender, you're sometimes being blind.
So, you like it or not, this is the face of Anatolian women, but instead of looking down on them, you can try to understand them. |
these video is mostly from blacksea region and their wearings are triditional...if u notice many of them are older ppl and I dont belive it is about %80...it is not symbol of any religion...coz older russian,and many eurpoean wears these in willages...it is not good to put all anatoian women to same group...
these video is for blacksea's women who wear triditional dressings as my mum...
best regards
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30 May 2007 Wed 11:43 pm |
Quoting mltm: But usually the hopes of these people are small, limited to just being like their mothers, marrying, having children etc. Expecting a turkish village girl to be a big women's right defender is far from reality.
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'a big women's right defender'; can you define in detail?
And what's wrong with marrying and having children?
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30 May 2007 Wed 11:45 pm |
Quoting Lapinkulta:
these video is mostly from blacksea region and their wearings are triditional...if u notice many of them are older ppl and I dont belive it is about %80...it is not symbol of any religion...coz older russian,and many eurpoean wears these in willages...it is not good to put all anatoian women to same group...
these video is for blacksea's women who wear triditional dressings as my mum...
best regards |
Yes, as you said it's not a symbol of a religion, but if we go to an anatolian village, I'm sure the majority of women dress in traditional clothes, not in jeans and t-shirts, and not just in the black sea region, in all parts of Turkey. Why would you think that just the black sea women wear like this? This is very common in villages.
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30 May 2007 Wed 11:49 pm |
Quoting qdemir: Quoting mltm: But usually the hopes of these people are small, limited to just being like their mothers, marrying, having children etc. Expecting a turkish village girl to be a big women's right defender is far from reality.
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'a big women's right defender'; can you define in detail?
And what's wrong with marrying and having children? |
I think you've got me wrong. I try to say that a girl that has grown up in a village or in a small anatolian city can not have the mentality of catwoman forexample.And there's nothnig wrong in marrying and having children, I would be the same if I were a village girl. We are all the products of our societies.
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30 May 2007 Wed 11:52 pm |
Quoting mltm: Quoting qdemir: Quoting mltm: But usually the hopes of these people are small, limited to just being like their mothers, marrying, having children etc. Expecting a turkish village girl to be a big women's right defender is far from reality.
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'a big women's right defender'; can you define in detail?
And what's wrong with marrying and having children? |
I think you've got me wrong. I try to say that a girl that has grown up in a village or in a small anatolian city can not have the mentality of catwoman forexample.And there's nothnig wrong in marrying and having children, I would be the same if I were a village girl. We are all the products of our societies. |
Is catwoman a big women's right defender?
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