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Muslim Athlete Disqualified Over Uniform
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22 Jan 2008 Tue 08:19 pm |
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Quoting alameda: It is wrong and unIslamic in the extreem. |
Frankly, I am a bit sick of hearing this. Extreme muslims make up the largest percentage of the Islamic world - you only have to look to Islamic States, let alone immigrants in the west. Yet we are constantly told they are all "extreme" and not representative of Islam.
On the other side of the coin, the less extreme muslims of Turkey, for example, are regarded with distain by those states.
Who are we to believe when talking about what is the true Islam? 
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22 Jan 2008 Tue 08:29 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting alameda: It is wrong and unIslamic in the extreem. |
Frankly, I am a bit sick of hearing this. Extreme muslims make up the largest percentage of the Islamic world - you only have to look to Islamic States, let alone immigrants in the west. Yet we are constantly told they are all "extreme" and not representative of Islam.
On the other side of the coin, the less extreme muslims of Turkey, for example, are regarded with distain by those states.
Who are we to believe when talking about what is the true Islam? |
Goodness ive heard it all now, its just not the case that the majority of the so called 'Islamic world' are extremists!!! It is the case that most of the people in the Islamic World (hate using this phrase,there is only one world!)are just like you and I. Going about their everyday business and getting on with life. If you want to know what is the true Islam you should not listen to exremists who are using a corrupted version of this beautiful religion. I can assure you it is only ignorant people that do not wish to understand the big picture and see the beauty in Islam that use such insulting language towards it.
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22 Jan 2008 Tue 08:38 pm |
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Quote: I can assure you it is only ignorant people that do not wish to understand the big picture and see the beauty in Islam that use such insulting language towards it. |
I feel so much better now...I have been reassured!
Sera...I have lived with a muslim man for a few years, been to a few Islamic countries, and have seen enough to know that a vast amount of these people have no idea that there religion is about peace...sorry, I don't have statistics but I was talking about personal experience. Many American muslims are afraid of these extremists, because they KNOW what it is like in the mosques and seen it first hand. Perhaps there are two Islams...an extreme version and a version that is all love, peace and daisy chains?
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22 Jan 2008 Tue 08:47 pm |
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Quoting SERA_2005: I can assure you it is only ignorant people that do not wish to understand the big picture and see the beauty in Islam that use such insulting language towards it. |
My definition of "extreme" did not mean terrorists Sera. You are very naive if you think that Turkish muslims are anything like muslims in Islamic states.
Did you watch the BBC Dispatches video of what our biggest mosque in Birmingham preach? Are you really so naive STILL? Frankly, if I am deleted for discussing such a thing, I really don't give a damn!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dEDVSLIkd5w
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22 Jan 2008 Tue 08:53 pm |
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Quoting SERA_2005: I can assure you it is only ignorant people that do not wish to understand the big picture and see the beauty in Islam that use such insulting language towards it. |
Please can you tell me where I use "insulting language towards" Islam?
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22 Jan 2008 Tue 08:59 pm |
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I have seen it all now!! My UK bank offers the following bank account for muslims!!! I wonder if I can get a Christian Bank Account in Saudi? An Agnostic one in Iran?
Of course no! I am a second class citizen in THEIR countries with fewer rights and no respect.
http://www.lloydstsb.com/current_accounts/islamic_account.asp
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22 Jan 2008 Tue 09:11 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: I have seen it all now!! My UK bank offers the following bank account for muslims!!! I wonder if I can get a Christian Bank Account in Saudi? An Agnostic one in Iran?
Of course no! I am a second class citizen in THEIR countries with fewer rights and no respect.
http://www.lloydstsb.com/current_accounts/islamic_account.asp
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hehehe...so everyone else can bank unethically? Sorry but I think we could come up with some hilarious slogans for your bank:
"We steal money for the Christians...and launder it for the Muslims" hahahahhahaha
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22 Jan 2008 Tue 09:27 pm |
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Quoting Elisabeth: hehehe...so everyone else can bank unethically? |
Well if this "ethical" account means that I will not be charged £20 a day for an "unapproved" accidental overdraft of £6.50, then I will definitely consider converting to Islam 
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22 Jan 2008 Tue 09:48 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting alameda: It is wrong and unIslamic in the extreem. |
Frankly, I am a bit sick of hearing this. Extreme muslims make up the largest percentage of the Islamic world - you only have to look to Islamic States, let alone immigrants in the west. Yet we are constantly told they are all "extreme" and not representative of Islam.
On the other side of the coin, the less extreme muslims of Turkey, for example, are regarded with distain by those states.
Who are we to believe when talking about what is the true Islam? |
Dear AEnigma, I know it is confusing. Unfortunately often spiritual paths become entwined with power structures.
In Christianity this was seen almost the instant it became the official church of Constantine. The burning of heretics rapidly ensued, later with the rise of the Roman Catholic church, we see Roman Catholic inquisitions, then there were the Protestant/Catholic wars, the Orthodox/Catholic split and on and on. These are but a few examples....I'm sure I need not list more?
Do you think the fact that whole Native American peoples were wiped out was due to the teachings of Christ?
Those who truly seek to follow a spiritual path are, it seems, in the minority. Throughout history the attempt at hijacking religions has been done.
In the Islamic world is not immune. As I said in my previous message, the rise of radical Islam coincides with the rise in oil wealth in the country that is home of radical Islam. Much of that money was used to fund radical mosques, provide them with teaching materials.
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22 Jan 2008 Tue 09:48 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting alameda: It is wrong and unIslamic in the extreem. |
Frankly, I am a bit sick of hearing this. Extreme muslims make up the largest percentage of the Islamic world - you only have to look to Islamic States, let alone immigrants in the west. Yet we are constantly told they are all "extreme" and not representative of Islam.
On the other side of the coin, the less extreme muslims of Turkey, for example, are regarded with distain by those states.
Who are we to believe when talking about what is the true Islam? |
Many muslims learn early on to parrot the phrase "this is not true islam" when they are accused of wrong doings in the name of their religion. So, alameda is simply parroting what she was taught along with memorizing the koran in arabic. 
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22 Jan 2008 Tue 09:52 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: I have seen it all now!! My UK bank offers the following bank account for muslims!!! I wonder if I can get a Christian Bank Account in Saudi? An Agnostic one in Iran?
Of course no! I am a second class citizen in THEIR countries with fewer rights and no respect.
http://www.lloydstsb.com/current_accounts/islamic_account.asp
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Wow, and did you see the children's fund.. The only Child Trust Fund account that respects Islamic law. Who sits on the Board of Directors at your Bank? Come on, don't you want to donate your extra pounds to this Trust Fund... Just think of all the children you can help.. 
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