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17 Dec 2008 Wed 08:50 am |
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Yesterday vacation is over guys,
Let´s continue our debats with mutual respect,without any personal judgments,comments,accusations
Rule 9,10
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17 Dec 2008 Wed 09:53 am |
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Canlý, you´ve been busy since I last signed off. You said two things about America that I find very interesting. You seem to think Americans want to take over and control Iraq. They are actually trying to teach the Iraqi army how to take control of their own country so they can get out of there! If the Iraqi government and army can´t control their own country and eliminate the terrorists cells within their own borders, no country will be safe unless it is an ally of Iraq. Can you name one ally of that country? One ally that is sane, stable, productive, and takes care of its people?
You also said that when Saddam started killing his own people, Americans decided to go in and kill the rest. What? The American army went in to eliminate the terrorists cells in Iraq and Afganistan, not to kill Iraqis. Yes, they´ve killed some civilians. That happens in war. Every country who has ever fought in a war has killed innocent people. Every country. So why are Americans the only ones who are criticized for it? What about the terrorists who purposefully put civilians in places they know are being targeted by US and UK military, and they leave them there to be blown to bits? This has happened, and it is public knowledge. You might even find it on wikipedia. The problem with wiki is that ANYONE can modify and edit the information, so it is not a credible or reputable source of information. Take it with a grain of salt.
How many innocent people have died at the hands of terrorists? Does anybody even know? They will not stop until they kill everyone they don´t like, no matter what the reason. Do you agree they need to be stopped? What is so wrong with America, the UK, and European troops trying to stop terrorist groups from being successful? Can you honestly say that if America and Europe just went home and left Iraq and Afganistan and Pakistan to do whatever they wanted that you would feel safe? Maybe you would since you live in a Muslim country, but most Turks do not sympathize with terrorists and do not agree with violence toward other religions. Turkey is a fairly liberal country and the Muslim extremists don´t like that about Turkey. Istanbul has been the victim of many terrorists attacks, one when I was there the first time. It will only get worse if someone doesn´t stop the terrorist cells, yet everyone criticizes the people who are trying to do so. If other countries don´t like the fact that American and Europe are trying to stop terrorism so the rest of the world can be safe, then let´s send some Turkish soldiers in there to do it. Turkey has been a target more than once, and they are fighting their own battles with the PKK in the east. Turkey knows how it feels to be a target. Why don´t they fight back? I´m not saying this as a criticism as I love Turkey and hope to live there one day. I´m just creating an example and asking a question.
I´m not trying to argue or offend anyone. I do like a good debate on this subject though and today has been quite interesting. I haven´t heard one thing to make me change my mind on anything.
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17 Dec 2008 Wed 09:57 am |
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Part of an article "A dictator created then destroyed by America"
"In the aftermath of the international crimes against humanity of 2001 we have tortured, we have murdered, we have brutalised and killed the innocent - we have even added our shame at Abu Ghraib to Saddam´s shame at Abu Ghraib - and yet we are supposed to forget these terrible crimes as we applaud the swinging corpse of the dictator we created.
Who encouraged Saddam to invade Iran in 1980, which was the greatest war crime he has committed for it led to the deaths of a million and a half souls? And who sold him the components for the chemical weapons with which he drenched Iran and the Kurds? We did. No wonder the Americans, who controlled Saddam´s weird trial, forbad any mention of this, his most obscene atrocity, in the charges against him. Could he not have been handed over to the Iranians for sentencing for this massive war crime? Of course not. Because that would also expose our culpability.
And the mass killings we perpetrated in 2003 with our depleted uranium shells and our "bunker buster" bombs and our phosphorous, the murderous post-invasion sieges of Fallujah and Najaf, the hell-disaster of anarchy we unleashed on the Iraqi population in the aftermath of our "victory" - our "mission accomplished" - who will be found guilty of this? Such expiation as we might expect will come, no doubt, in the self-serving memoirs of Blair and Bush, written in comfortable and wealthy retirement. "
Rest here:http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-a-dictator-created-then-destroyed-by-america-430197.html
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17 Dec 2008 Wed 11:06 am |
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Canlý, you´ve been busy since I last signed off. You said two things about America that I find very interesting. You seem to think Americans want to take over and control Iraq. They are actually trying to teach the Iraqi army how to take control of their own country so they can get out of there! If the Iraqi government and army can´t control their own country and eliminate the terrorists cells within their own borders, no country will be safe unless it is an ally of Iraq. Can you name one ally of that country? One ally that is sane, stable, productive, and takes care of its people?
You also said that when Saddam started killing his own people, Americans decided to go in and kill the rest. What? The American army went in to eliminate the terrorists cells in Iraq and Afganistan, not to kill Iraqis. Yes, they´ve killed some civilians. That happens in war. Every country who has ever fought in a war has killed innocent people. Every country. So why are Americans the only ones who are criticized for it? What about the terrorists who purposefully put civilians in places they know are being targeted by US and UK military, and they leave them there to be blown to bits? This has happened, and it is public knowledge. You might even find it on wikipedia. The problem with wiki is that ANYONE can modify and edit the information, so it is not a credible or reputable source of information. Take it with a grain of salt.
How many innocent people have died at the hands of terrorists? Does anybody even know? They will not stop until they kill everyone they don´t like, no matter what the reason. Do you agree they need to be stopped? What is so wrong with America, the UK, and European troops trying to stop terrorist groups from being successful? Can you honestly say that if America and Europe just went home and left Iraq and Afganistan and Pakistan to do whatever they wanted that you would feel safe? Maybe you would since you live in a Muslim country, but most Turks do not sympathize with terrorists and do not agree with violence toward other religions. Turkey is a fairly liberal country and the Muslim extremists don´t like that about Turkey. Istanbul has been the victim of many terrorists attacks, one when I was there the first time. It will only get worse if someone doesn´t stop the terrorist cells, yet everyone criticizes the people who are trying to do so. If other countries don´t like the fact that American and Europe are trying to stop terrorism so the rest of the world can be safe, then let´s send some Turkish soldiers in there to do it. Turkey has been a target more than once, and they are fighting their own battles with the PKK in the east. Turkey knows how it feels to be a target. Why don´t they fight back? I´m not saying this as a criticism as I love Turkey and hope to live there one day. I´m just creating an example and asking a question.
I´m not trying to argue or offend anyone. I do like a good debate on this subject though and today has been quite interesting. I haven´t heard one thing to make me change my mind on anything.
Maryilyons,
à dont REALLY know where to start in my comment !
1. USA went to Ãraq on a claim of searching for nuclear weapons,which they didnt find and was false information as they have admitted !
2. USA was supporting Ãraq and its government during the war with Ãran,and we do NOT need wiki for that !
3. Some civilians you are refering at are more than million person and that is more than been killed by terrorism
4. Ãt was NOT a war,war has two sides,it was invasion and thats different.
5. The terrorists cells within their Ãraq borders are the iraqians who try to free their land from the American invasion
6. Türkiye is a big girl and can take care of herself,she doesnt need US to do it for her that is a first
Second,it was US who gave the Kurds in Ãraq the control over north iraq...and i wonder how much help was that to Türkiye ?!
7. Training a government and an army to be the 51 state of the US is not my understanding of free and stable country !
8. Ã wonder why the British and some American citizen feel ashamed of that war if that was the right things to do as you claim?!
9. We were feeling more safe before US put its foot in the area,and that also include Türkiye
And you can search how by yourself.
10. ´Maybe you would since you live in a Muslim country, but most Turks do not sympathize with terrorists and do not agree with violence toward other religions´
That is a nice statment,that i will cherish it more by not replying to it!
Btw,most Turks are Muslims,the percentage more than we have in my own country.
11. Ã take it when US decide to invade Russia,and get its own valid reasons for that,you will support it and also think every war has its own victims,and you would sing the American national Anthem in your own country?!
Btw,i dont want to change your mind about anything....have fun !
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17 Dec 2008 Wed 02:38 pm |
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marylyons thinks Al-Zaidi is an idiot. She loves Bush and calls him the most powerful man on eartH
Well ! I doubt that very much. Here is Mr.Bush´s CV. Read and decide who is the real fool.
I Need a Job
I will be available in January 2009, and I am willing to
relocate.
RESUME: GEORGE W. BUSH
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
Washington, DC 20520
LAW ENFORCEMENT:
I was arrested in Kennebunkport , Maine , in 1976 for driving under the influence of alcohol. I plead guilty, paid a fine,and had my driver´s license suspended for 30 days. My Texas driving recordhas been ´lost´ and is not available.
MILITARY:
I joined the Texas Air National Guard and went AWOL. I refused to take a drug test or answer any questions about my druguse. By joining the Texas Air National Guard, I was able to avoid combat duty in Vietnam
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EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE:
I graduated from Yale University with a low C average. I was a cheerleader. .
PAST WORK EXPERIENCE:
- I ran for U.S. Congress and lost.
- I began my career in the oil business in Midland ,Texas , in 1975. I bought an oil company, but couldn´t find any oil inTexas . The company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock.
- I bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in asweetheart deal that took land using taxpayer money.
- With the help of my father and our friends in the oil industry (including Enron CEO Ken Lay), I was elected governor of Texas .
ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS GOVERNOR OF TEXAS :
- I changed Texas pollution laws to favor power and oil companies,making Texas the most polluted state in the Union .
- During my tenure, Houston replaced Los Angeles as the most smog-ridden city in America .
- I cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas treasury to thetune of billions in borrowed money.
- I set the record for the most executions by any governor in American history.
- With the help of my brother, the governor of Florida ,and my father´s appointments to the Supreme Court, I became President of the United States , after losing by over 500,000 votes.
ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT:
- I am the first President in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal record.
- I invaded and occupied two countries at a continuing cost of over one billion dollars per week.
- I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively bankrupted the U.S. Treasury.
- I shattered the record for the largest annual deficit in U.S. history.
- I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period.
- I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period. I set the all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of the U.S. stock market.
- In my first year in office, over 2 million American s lost their jobs and that trend continues.
- I´m proud that the members of my cabinet are the richest of anyadministration in U.S. history. My ´poorest millionaire, ´Condoleezza Rice,has a Chevron oil tanker named after her.
- I set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips by a U.S. President. I am the all-time U.S. and world record-holder for receiving the most corporate campaign donations. - - - My largest lifetime campaign contributor, and one of my best friends, Kenneth Lay, presided over the largest corporate bankruptcy fraud in U.S. history, Enron.
- My political party used Enron private jets and corporate attorneys to assure my success with the U.S. Supreme Court during my election decision.
- I have protected my friends at Enron and Halliburton against investigation or prosecution.
- More time and money was spent investigating the Monica Lewinsky affair than has been spent investigating one of the biggest corporate rip-offs in history.
- I presided over the biggest energy crisis in U.S. history and refused to intervene when corruption involving the oil industry was revealed.
- I presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history.
- I changed the U.S. policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.
- I appointed more convicted criminals to my administration than any President in U.S. history.
- I created the Ministry of Homeland Security, the largest bureaucracy in the history of the United States Government.
- I´ve broken more international treaties than any President in U.S. history.
- I am the first President in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the Human Rights Commission.
- I withdrew the U.S. from the World Court of Law.
- I refused to allow inspector´s access to U.S. ´prisoners of war´ detainees and thereby have refused to abide by the Geneva Convention.
- I am the first President in history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 US election).
- I set the record for fewest numbers of press conferences of any President since the advent of television.
- I set the all-time record for most days on vacation in any one-year period.
- After taking off the entire month of August, I presided over the worst security failure in U.S. history.
- I garnered the most sympathy ever for the U.S. after the World Trade Center attacks and less than a year later made the U.S. the most hated country in the world, the largest failure of diplomacy in world history.
- I have set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously protest me in public venues (15 million people), shattering the record for protests against any person in the history of mankind.
- I am the first President in U.S. history to order an unprovoked, preemptive attack and the military occupation of a sovereign nation. I did so against the will of the United Nations, the majority of U.S. Citizens and the world community.
- I have cut health care benefits for war veterans and support a cut in duty benefits for active duty troops and their families in wartime.
- In my State of the Union Address, I lied about our reasons for attacking Iraq and then blamed the lies on our British friends.
- I am the first President in history to have a majority of Europeans (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and security.
- I am supporting development of a nuclear ´Tactical Bunker Buster,´ a WMD.
- I have so far failed to fulfill my pledge to bring Osama Bin Laden to justice.
RECORDS AND REFERENCES:
- All records of my tenure as governor of Texas are now in my father´s library, sealed and unavailable for public view.
- All records of SEC investigations into my insider trading and my bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
- All records or minutes from meetings that I, or my Vice-President attended, regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review.
- I specified that my sealed documents will not be available for 50 years.
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17 Dec 2008 Wed 03:13 pm |
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I was just listening to a discussion/phone in programme on a national UK radio station and was interested to hear overwhelming support for reporter Al-Zaidi, and disgust at the way he has been treated. Interestingly, the only negative comments were from a couple of Iraqi ex-pats living in the UK who said they were ashamed! 
Where were all these people when the decision was first made to invade Iraq? How many killings had to happen before people realised that Bush and Blair were WRONG? Does it make me happy that suddenly everyone realises it was a wrong decision? No, it makes me so angry actually...
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17 Dec 2008 Wed 03:19 pm |
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marylyons thinks Al-Zaidi is an idiot. She loves Bush and calls him the most powerful man on eartH
Well ! I doubt that very much. Here is Mr.Bush´s CV. Read and decide who is the real fool.
I Need a Job
I will be available in January 2009, and I am willing to
relocate.
RESUME: GEORGE W. BUSH
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
Washington, DC 20520
LAW ENFORCEMENT:
I was arrested in Kennebunkport , Maine , in 1976 for driving under the influence of alcohol. I plead guilty, paid a fine,and had my driver´s license suspended for 30 days. My Texas driving recordhas been ´lost´ and is not available.
MILITARY:
I joined the Texas Air National Guard and went AWOL. I refused to take a drug test or answer any questions about my druguse. By joining the Texas Air National Guard, I was able to avoid combat duty in Vietnam
.
EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE:
I graduated from Yale University with a low C average. I was a cheerleader. .
PAST WORK EXPERIENCE:
- I ran for U.S. Congress and lost.
- I began my career in the oil business in Midland ,Texas , in 1975. I bought an oil company, but couldn´t find any oil inTexas . The company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock.
- I bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in asweetheart deal that took land using taxpayer money.
- With the help of my father and our friends in the oil industry (including Enron CEO Ken Lay), I was elected governor of Texas .
ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS GOVERNOR OF TEXAS :
- I changed Texas pollution laws to favor power and oil companies,making Texas the most polluted state in the Union .
- During my tenure, Houston replaced Los Angeles as the most smog-ridden city in America .
- I cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas treasury to thetune of billions in borrowed money.
- I set the record for the most executions by any governor in American history.
- With the help of my brother, the governor of Florida ,and my father´s appointments to the Supreme Court, I became President of the United States , after losing by over 500,000 votes.
ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT:
- I am the first President in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal record.
- I invaded and occupied two countries at a continuing cost of over one billion dollars per week.
- I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively bankrupted the U.S. Treasury.
- I shattered the record for the largest annual deficit in U.S. history.
- I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period.
- I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period. I set the all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of the U.S. stock market.
- In my first year in office, over 2 million American s lost their jobs and that trend continues.
- I´m proud that the members of my cabinet are the richest of anyadministration in U.S. history. My ´poorest millionaire, ´Condoleezza Rice,has a Chevron oil tanker named after her.
- I set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips by a U.S. President. I am the all-time U.S. and world record-holder for receiving the most corporate campaign donations. - - - My largest lifetime campaign contributor, and one of my best friends, Kenneth Lay, presided over the largest corporate bankruptcy fraud in U.S. history, Enron.
- My political party used Enron private jets and corporate attorneys to assure my success with the U.S. Supreme Court during my election decision.
- I have protected my friends at Enron and Halliburton against investigation or prosecution.
- More time and money was spent investigating the Monica Lewinsky affair than has been spent investigating one of the biggest corporate rip-offs in history.
- I presided over the biggest energy crisis in U.S. history and refused to intervene when corruption involving the oil industry was revealed.
- I presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history.
- I changed the U.S. policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.
- I appointed more convicted criminals to my administration than any President in U.S. history.
- I created the Ministry of Homeland Security, the largest bureaucracy in the history of the United States Government.
- I´ve broken more international treaties than any President in U.S. history.
- I am the first President in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the Human Rights Commission.
- I withdrew the U.S. from the World Court of Law.
- I refused to allow inspector´s access to U.S. ´prisoners of war´ detainees and thereby have refused to abide by the Geneva Convention.
- I am the first President in history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 US election).
- I set the record for fewest numbers of press conferences of any President since the advent of television.
- I set the all-time record for most days on vacation in any one-year period.
- After taking off the entire month of August, I presided over the worst security failure in U.S. history.
- I garnered the most sympathy ever for the U.S. after the World Trade Center attacks and less than a year later made the U.S. the most hated country in the world, the largest failure of diplomacy in world history.
- I have set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously protest me in public venues (15 million people), shattering the record for protests against any person in the history of mankind.
- I am the first President in U.S. history to order an unprovoked, preemptive attack and the military occupation of a sovereign nation. I did so against the will of the United Nations, the majority of U.S. Citizens and the world community.
- I have cut health care benefits for war veterans and support a cut in duty benefits for active duty troops and their families in wartime.
- In my State of the Union Address, I lied about our reasons for attacking Iraq and then blamed the lies on our British friends.
- I am the first President in history to have a majority of Europeans (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and security.
- I am supporting development of a nuclear ´Tactical Bunker Buster,´ a WMD.
- I have so far failed to fulfill my pledge to bring Osama Bin Laden to justice.
RECORDS AND REFERENCES:
- All records of my tenure as governor of Texas are now in my father´s library, sealed and unavailable for public view.
- All records of SEC investigations into my insider trading and my bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
- All records or minutes from meetings that I, or my Vice-President attended, regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review.
- I specified that my sealed documents will not be available for 50 years.
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You need to reread my posts. I did not claim to love George Bush. In fact, I think he is an idiot. I did not claim he is the most powerful man in the world. I did not say I believe Bush is the most powerful man in the world. I don´t remember my exact words but I believe I said that I did not necessarily believe he should have that label, but that label has been given to him as a result of him being the leader (unfortunately) of the most powerful country in the world.
His driving record couldn´t have been too lost. You found it.
Where did you find this? The fact that stuff like this is posted on the Internet and that people take time to find it just gives the man more power, right? I´ve never Googled "George W. Bush" and never will. I don´t have the interest or the time to waste. I also did not read this information. Like the information posted in most Middle Eastern newspapers, it is probably not accurate.
My posts are not about George W. Bush. My posts are about America. People refuse to look at both sides of the story. I disagree with lots of things that the American government has done, but that doesn´t mean that all of America is bad. George Bush doesn´t run the country by himself, and there are a lot of people who disagree with many of his actions.
AlphaF, you are a fool if you believe this information about George Bush. Not because it is or isn´t true, because I don´t know if it is or isn´t. But if you read this and think YOU know, and then you base your opinions of an entire country on this information, which was probably posted as a joke on the Internet, then you are the fool.
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17 Dec 2008 Wed 03:20 pm |
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Canlý, you´ve been busy since I last signed off. You said two things about America that I find very interesting. You seem to think Americans want to take over and control Iraq. They are actually trying to teach the Iraqi army how to take control of their own country so they can get out of there! If the Iraqi government and army can´t control their own country and eliminate the terrorists cells within their own borders, no country will be safe unless it is an ally of Iraq. Can you name one ally of that country? One ally that is sane, stable, productive, and takes care of its people?
You also said that when Saddam started killing his own people, Americans decided to go in and kill the rest. What? The American army went in to eliminate the terrorists cells in Iraq and Afganistan, not to kill Iraqis. Yes, they´ve killed some civilians. That happens in war. Every country who has ever fought in a war has killed innocent people. Every country. So why are Americans the only ones who are criticized for it? What about the terrorists who purposefully put civilians in places they know are being targeted by US and UK military, and they leave them there to be blown to bits? This has happened, and it is public knowledge. You might even find it on wikipedia. The problem with wiki is that ANYONE can modify and edit the information, so it is not a credible or reputable source of information. Take it with a grain of salt.
How many innocent people have died at the hands of terrorists? Does anybody even know? They will not stop until they kill everyone they don´t like, no matter what the reason. Do you agree they need to be stopped? What is so wrong with America, the UK, and European troops trying to stop terrorist groups from being successful? Can you honestly say that if America and Europe just went home and left Iraq and Afganistan and Pakistan to do whatever they wanted that you would feel safe? Maybe you would since you live in a Muslim country, but most Turks do not sympathize with terrorists and do not agree with violence toward other religions. Turkey is a fairly liberal country and the Muslim extremists don´t like that about Turkey. Istanbul has been the victim of many terrorists attacks, one when I was there the first time. It will only get worse if someone doesn´t stop the terrorist cells, yet everyone criticizes the people who are trying to do so. If other countries don´t like the fact that American and Europe are trying to stop terrorism so the rest of the world can be safe, then let´s send some Turkish soldiers in there to do it. Turkey has been a target more than once, and they are fighting their own battles with the PKK in the east. Turkey knows how it feels to be a target. Why don´t they fight back? I´m not saying this as a criticism as I love Turkey and hope to live there one day. I´m just creating an example and asking a question.
I´m not trying to argue or offend anyone. I do like a good debate on this subject though and today has been quite interesting. I haven´t heard one thing to make me change my mind on anything.
Great post......Oh and by the way I have been here for several years now and nothing has changed my mind either....
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17 Dec 2008 Wed 03:22 pm |
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I disagree with lots of things that the American government has done, but that doesn´t mean that all of America is bad. George Bush doesn´t run the country by himself, and there are a lot of people who disagree with many of his actions.
Unfortunately for you, the power of the US is on a downward slide now. The king is dead, long live the king.
(PS. A lot of people who disagree with many of his actions? Be specific please. How many Iraqis died before the general public in the US came to this decision?) I notice even Teaschip, who used to defend Bush like a mother defends her baby, has recently been backing down... 
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17 Dec 2008 Wed 03:23 pm |
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You need to reread my posts. I did not claim to love George Bush. In fact, I think he is an idiot. I did not claim he is the most powerful man in the world. I did not say I believe Bush is the most powerful man in the world. I don´t remember my exact words but I believe I said that I did not necessarily believe he should have that label, but that label has been given to him as a result of him being the leader (unfortunately) of the most powerful country in the world.
His driving record couldn´t have been too lost. You found it.
Where did you find this? The fact that stuff like this is posted on the Internet and that people take time to find it just gives the man more power, right? I´ve never Googled "George W. Bush" and never will. I don´t have the interest or the time to waste. I also did not read this information. Like the information posted in most Middle Eastern newspapers, it is probably not accurate.
My posts are not about George W. Bush. My posts are about America. People refuse to look at both sides of the story. I disagree with lots of things that the American government has done, but that doesn´t mean that all of America is bad. George Bush doesn´t run the country by himself, and there are a lot of people who disagree with many of his actions.
AlphaF, you are a fool if you believe this information about George Bush. Not because it is or isn´t true, because I don´t know if it is or isn´t. But if you read this and think YOU know, and then you base your opinions of an entire country on this information, which was probably posted as a joke on the Internet, then you are the fool.
Just ignore AlphaF...he has come out of exile recently and is a little disillusioned at the moment.
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17 Dec 2008 Wed 03:27 pm |
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Just ignore AlphaF...he has come out of exile recently and is a little disillusioned at the moment.
Just ignore Teaschip - she has been a little disillusioned ever since she voted for Bush... twice!
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