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10.       MalatyaGirl
160 posts
 22 Jun 2007 Fri 04:25 pm

I'm glad you are still together. You didn't say so in your post

I understand you saying you don't recommend anyone embark on such a relationship...it's really difficult isn't it. I completely understand. But at the end of the day, you can't choose who you fall for. You just have to do what you can and make the most of it!


My husband and I are also halfway through the army...it's tough but like you said it's just a small bump in the road. Where is he based? Kütahya? It's a very disciplined base!

11.       gezbelle
1542 posts
 25 Jun 2007 Mon 02:31 am

Quoting azade:

Quoting gezbelle:

why only sweden or germany?

and why don't they allow you both to live in denmark??



No the laws are so strict that he can't live in Denmark until I'm 28. It's a discriminating law but the government doesn't care even the slightest.
The reason we're going to stay in Sweden or Germany is that I can still study in Denmark that way.
In the long run we want to live in Turkey, partly because I'm just fed up with all the crap the danish immigration"service" throws at us. I don't really feel danish anymore, whatever that means.
It's pretty pathetic that Sweden allows to live there when I'm not even a swedish citizen, but my own country doesn't.



wow! that's kinda crap. and 28 is a pretty wierd number that they chose for this law.

does this law only affect turkish immigrants to denmark? or other nationalities as well??

12.       catwoman
8933 posts
 25 Jun 2007 Mon 07:49 am

Quoting MalatyaGirl:

But at the end of the day, you can't choose who you fall for. You just have to do what you can and make the most of it!


Sorry for picking a sentence from your post, but I don't understand what you mean here. Why can't we possibly choose who we fall for? Are you saying that we have no control over our feelings even when we feel attracted to the wrong people? That sounds like a very unexamined attitude.
You probably think that we fall in love "out of nowhere", but I disagree with that. It's always out of somewhere, except that people romanticize and make the feeling of being in love so sacred that there's no question of "where is it coming from" or "why do I like this clearly wrong person?". Women are often victims of this attitude because they take unequal responsibility for the wrong relationships and like little children, just can't let them go.

13.       azade
1606 posts
 25 Jun 2007 Mon 12:16 pm

Quoting gezbelle:



wow! that's kinda crap. and 28 is a pretty wierd number that they chose for this law.

does this law only affect turkish immigrants to denmark? or other nationalities as well??



It applies to everyone. The government states that it's to reduce the amount of arranged marriages, but really they just want to keep all foreigners out of the country. The EU has critizised the law countless times because it's discriminating but the government doesn't care whatsoever.

14.       reBooped
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 25 Jun 2007 Mon 12:31 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting MalatyaGirl:

But at the end of the day, you can't choose who you fall for. You just have to do what you can and make the most of it!


Sorry for picking a sentence from your post, but I don't understand what you mean here. Why can't we possibly choose who we fall for? Are you saying that we have no control over our feelings even when we feel attracted to the wrong people? That sounds like a very unexamined attitude.
You probably think that we fall in love "out of nowhere", but I disagree with that. It's always out of somewhere, except that people romanticize and make the feeling of being in love so sacred that there's no question of "where is it coming from" or "why do I like this clearly wrong person?". Women are often victims of this attitude because they take unequal responsibility for the wrong relationships and like little children, just can't let them go.



...I agree with Catwoman completely - yes we can have feelings for someone, but at the end of the day we have the choice to persue/encourage a relationship or not- it is not compulsory

15.       Ghost
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 25 Jun 2007 Mon 12:50 pm

Quoting azade:

It applies to everyone. The government states that it's to reduce the amount of arranged marriages, but really they just want to keep all foreigners out of the country. The EU has critizised the law countless times because it's discriminating but the government doesn't care whatsoever.



Discriminating?...no realistic! The fact is that many of you naive silly girls are bewitched by a few romantic words on holiday uttered by serial-sex tourist workers and import unskilled Turkish men into other countries who leave you within a year and are free to enjoy their new residency

Now shout at me that I generalize! Yes! Tell me its not just Turkish men! Then tell me why its only Turkish tourist workers who do this?

16.       reBooped
0 posts
 25 Jun 2007 Mon 04:03 pm

....Ghost...may I ask, do you speak from experience?

17.       Ghost
0 posts
 25 Jun 2007 Mon 05:22 pm

Quoting reBooped:

....Ghost...may I ask, do you speak from experience?



Of course! But my days of waiting on tables are well and truly over

18.       azade
1606 posts
 25 Jun 2007 Mon 07:12 pm

Then that explains your pessimism and generalization Ghost. I never had a holiday romance and always try to discourage people from that because ..well DUH. You couldn't have cared to read my opening post before making such a harsh (false) accusation?

And the law I'm referring to has nothing to do with turks (or other nationalities) wanting to use a fake marriage as an excuse to move to european countries. The purpose of that law (which only Denmark has by the way) is to help (mainly) muslim women who are forced into marrying someone they don't know.

19.       Ghost
0 posts
 25 Jun 2007 Mon 08:46 pm

Quoting azade:

Then that explains your pessimism and generalization Ghost. I never had a holiday romance and always try to discourage people from that because ..well DUH. You couldn't have cared to read my opening post before making such a harsh (false) accusation?

And the law I'm referring to has nothing to do with turks (or other nationalities) wanting to use a fake marriage as an excuse to move to european countries. The purpose of that law (which only Denmark has by the way) is to help (mainly) muslim women who are forced into marrying someone they don't know.



It seems you took my post too personally Azade! Oh well, we have a saying here...if the cap fits, wear it

20.       Ghost
0 posts
 25 Jun 2007 Mon 08:56 pm

Quoting azade:

I never had a holiday romance and always try to discourage people from that because ..well DUH.



Thats very public spirited of you! And how do you discourage people from such actions? Do you patrol the resorts with a megaphone warning of the dangers of evil Turkish tourist workers?

You never had a holiday romance? Aww poor thing Dont take it personally ya!

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