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Trudy :(
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18 Nov 2007 Sun 10:34 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting libralady: Let me help some of you with an example of Insulting posts |
oh, libra, our eagle of justice! 
according to marion we bed girls are insulting those who try to learn the language, but no way i can see them learning not only language but anything at all. 
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And that is your problem?
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18 Nov 2007 Sun 10:46 pm |
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what problem, libra?
what problem?
do i need to have a problem to express myslef?
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18 Nov 2007 Sun 11:35 pm |
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Mother Teresa's Anyway Poem
People are often unreasonable, illogical and self centered;
Forgive them anyway.
If you are kind, people may accuse you of selfish, ulterior motives;
Be kind anyway.
If you are successful, you will win some false friends and some true enemies;
Succeed anyway.
If you are honest and frank, people may cheat you;
Be honest and frank anyway.
What you spend years building, someone could destroy overnight;
Build anyway.
If you find serenity and happiness, they may be jealous;
Be happy anyway.
The good you do today, people will often forget tomorrow;
Do good anyway.
Give the world the best you have, and it may never be enough;
Give the world the best you've got anyway.
You see, in the final analysis, it is between you and your God;
It was never between you and them anyway.
[Reportedly inscribed on the wall of Mother Teresa's children's home in Calcutta, and attributed to her. However, an article in the New York Times has since reported (March 8, 2002) that the original version of this poem was written by Kent M. Keith.]
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18 Nov 2007 Sun 11:55 pm |
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a person who was an altruist, mother teresa, tho im far from worshipping personalities, i just can show my respect.
did you hear that alabnian so much tolerant muslim community is against the monument of teresa - the project of gov of albania to be proud of her personality?
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19 Nov 2007 Mon 12:25 am |
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Quoting libralady: Let me help some of you with an example of Insulting posts |
This is an insult! There are FAR MORE than this 
I dont see your point though - we are not the ones complaining about them or hypocritically holding ourselves up as the paragons of tolerance and kindness to others 
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19 Nov 2007 Mon 05:53 am |
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Quoting Delidolu: we should all try to be a little more gentlemanlike |
You realize that some of us are women, right? Are you then suggesting that we should change genders? 
To all men out there: Don't try to be "gentleman-like" - be humans and treat others like humans as well!
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19 Nov 2007 Mon 07:18 am |
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Quoting MarioninTurkey: Well, IMHO some people may like to throw insults at each other, but many of us don't. I don't expect to be talked to rudely, and I try not to talk rudely to others. |
+1
Quoting MarioninTurkey: I am astounded at the comments that some classmates receive when they send things for translation. I get many p.m.s asking for translation saying "I don't dare put this on the open forum as I will get losts of insults." |
This whole idea of the love letter translations is very shady to me and it may sound brutal, but maybe it's better for some of those people to not get their translations.. 
Quoting MarioninTurkey: Sadly, Trudy is not the only person who has (or could have) made great contributions to the site but has given up because no one has to put up with being insulted. I know of two expats who have vast experience in Turkey who didn't stay in class longer than one week because of the antics of the small group who think they are smart insulting others. |
I think you're talking about two different "groups" here! One which comments on the translation requests and one which made Trudy leave.
Quoting MarioninTurkey: Trudy, I loved your posts and your contributions. I hope you return. |
Me too!
Quoting MarioninTurkey: How about a reverse coup? Those of us who are serious about learning Turkish (do you ever see the insulters able to answer a single question about Turkish language??? or an indepth issue about Turkish culture or history e.g. one that doesn't involve behaviour of waiters) will just start to trash the insulters, and tell them to go and spoil Gujurati Class or Mongolian Class instead. |
But Marionin - there are all kinds of reasons why people are interested in Turkish culture and want to exchange ideas on this web site. They don't all have to be serious Turkish learners and have an in-depth knowledge about Turkey.
I of course agree that insulting others is wrong, but some people need to grow up a little and handle some healthy criticism instead of reacting with a tantrum.
Don't you think it's a bit of a double standard to say that it's not ok to insult Turkish language learners but it's ok to insult Mongolian language learners? I don't like this idea!
Quoting MarioninTurkey: Maybe then great contributors like Trudy will return .... until then, I don't think we deserve her. |
I'm afraid it's a bit more complicated than you think...
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19 Nov 2007 Mon 10:43 am |
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Quoting femme_fatal: what problem, libra?
what problem?
do i need to have a problem to express myslef?
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It was a question.
Is it your problem? Meaning is it your problem that people ask for translations?
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19 Nov 2007 Mon 05:29 pm |
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I get tons of PMs from young girls asking me for advice about their Turkish boyfriends....and quite honestly I am tired of it. In all the time I have been here I have seen the same thing happen over and over again, heard the same sms, then witnessed the same train wreck at the end of it all. It has made me very jaded and I think some of the other members too. Perhaps when you see my posts you should concider the fact that I have already received several PMs from the same people asking for advice.
I don't know why Trudy left but I concidered her a friend and I will miss her.
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19 Nov 2007 Mon 06:04 pm |
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Quoting libralady: Quoting femme_fatal: what problem, libra?
what problem?
do i need to have a problem to express myslef?
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It was a question.
Is it your problem? Meaning is it your problem that people ask for translations? |
libra, i admire you
i personally do not have problem with any translation, i dont live with those dudus nor with ££££.
but however, im fully entitled to give my opinion, wether you are happy with that or not.
i just wonder why do my comments bother you? you must have had some problems, libra, reading them between your naps.
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19 Nov 2007 Mon 06:28 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting libralady: Quoting femme_fatal: what problem, libra?
what problem?
do i need to have a problem to express myslef?
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It was a question.
Is it your problem? Meaning is it your problem that people ask for translations? |
libra, i admire you
i personally do not have problem with any translation, i dont live with those dudus nor with ££££.
but however, im fully entitled to give my opinion, wether you are happy with that or not.
i just wonder why do my comments bother you? you must have had some problems, libra, reading them between your naps. |
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