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180.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 08 Jan 2009 Thu 01:50 am

 

Quoting teaschip

Hmm, Israel withdrew 3 years ago from the Gaza strip in order to instill peace..since then Hamas has sent over 3 thousand missles into Israel within the last year targeting civilians.   Can´t really comprehend why anyone is questioning Israel´s actions...Your not suggesting they need to peacefully discuss this sitting at the kitchen table now...{#lang_emotions_wtf}just a little too late for that.

 

Are you saying that your conscience is clear about Israel going in and killing 700 people (including many civilians, many childeren)?

you are saying that you do NOT show any remorse when you see blown up childeren´s pictures?

you are not sorry even a little?

So it is alright for you they kill 700 in 10 days for missles which killed only handful of israelies during 3 years (I dont know exactly how many Israelies got killed because of that)?

 

181.       femmeous
2642 posts
 08 Jan 2009 Thu 02:02 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

Are you saying that your conscience is clear about Israel going in and killing 700 people (including many civilians, many childeren)?

you are saying that you do NOT show any remorse when you see blown up childeren´s pictures?

you are not sorry even a little?

So it is alright for you they kill 700 in 10 days for missles which killed only handful of israelies during 3 years (I dont know exactly how many Israelies got killed because of that)?

 

 

 israel is not responsible for the actions of hamas and other terror supporting neighbours who use palestinian civilians as targets. end of story.

182.       armegon
1872 posts
 08 Jan 2009 Thu 03:38 am

Yesha Rabbinical Council: During time of war, enemy has no innocents

 

Published:  07.30.06, 17:37 / Israel News

 

The Yesha Rabbinical Council announced in response to an IDF attack in Kfar Qanna that "according to Jewish law, during a time of battle and war, there is no such term as ´innocents´ of the enemy."

 All of the discussions on Christian morality are weakening the spirit of the army and the nation and are costing us in the blood of our soldiers and civilians," the statement said. (Efrat Weiss)

 

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3283720,00.html

183.       catwoman
8933 posts
 08 Jan 2009 Thu 04:38 am

 

Quoting teaschip

Hmm, Israel withdrew 3 years ago from the Gaza strip in order to instill peace..since then Hamas has sent over 3 thousand missles into Israel within the last year targeting civilians.   Can´t really comprehend why anyone is questioning Israel´s actions...Your not suggesting they need to peacefully discuss this sitting at the kitchen table now...{#lang_emotions_wtf}just a little too late for that.

 

Straight Fox news propaganda. Israel withdrew their military from OCCUPIED territory! A territory THEY occupied! Do you see the cause and effect there? Israel has violated international laws there!!!

184.       catwoman
8933 posts
 08 Jan 2009 Thu 04:38 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

Are you saying that your conscience is clear about Israel going in and killing 700 people (including many civilians, many childeren)?

you are saying that you do NOT show any remorse when you see blown up childeren´s pictures?

you are not sorry even a little?

So it is alright for you they kill 700 in 10 days for missles which killed only handful of israelies during 3 years (I dont know exactly how many Israelies got killed because of that)?

 

 

185.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 08 Jan 2009 Thu 05:34 am

Please view the moving slide show of the Gaza massacre on the left side in this article:

 

http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2008/12/31/chris-hedges-party-to-murder/

186.       alameda
3499 posts
 08 Jan 2009 Thu 07:25 am

Quoting teaschip

Hmm, Israel withdrew 3 years ago from the Gaza strip in order to instill peace..since then Hamas has sent over 3 thousand missles into Israel within the last year targeting civilians.   Can´t really comprehend why anyone is questioning Israel´s actions...Your not suggesting they need to peacefully discuss this sitting at the kitchen table now...{#lang_emotions_wtf}just a little too late for that.

 

I have watched this conflict for years,  it is NOT getting better. The tactics used by Israel and Hamas are not working. There has to be a better way!

 

Almost a thousand lives have been lost is a very gruesome manner.....and that doesn´t even begin to address the matter of the thousands maimed. This is not a road to peace.

 

I hang my head in shame for the disgrace this conflict has visited on humanity, and any participation I may have had in it.

187.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 08 Jan 2009 Thu 08:54 am

In the end, the reasons for the conflict get lost. Each side has their own version and unfortunately, that is the way in the world of conflict. What CANNOT get lost is the fact that thousands of innocent people are being killed.

 

Opposing sides will never agree on who is at fault, not Israeli’s or Palestinian’s, the US or the UN or the warring factions at TC. Who is at fault does not really matter right now, not when so many innocent people are dying. What matters is that it must stop…and it will…there will be a cease fire in time. But we have seen this before and I think the one thing we can all agree on is that it will start up again.

 

I am absolutely mortified and disgusted that my country shot down the UN proposal to call for a cease fire (even though, in my opinion, the UN is completely worthless, but that’s another story)!

 

How many more lives must be lost in the name of land?

188.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 08 Jan 2009 Thu 10:14 am

At least three rockets have been fired into northern Israel from Lebanon, raising fears that the current Israeli offensive in Gaza may spill over.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7817135.stm

 

Is Hezbullah joining the war? {#lang_emotions_unsure}

 

189.       femmeous
2642 posts
 08 Jan 2009 Thu 10:26 am

no debate for me today, tomorrow, the day after tomorrow... until monday i guess

 

so dears, enjoy the absense of evil pro-israeli borat and keep jumping on teas, she deserves that lol

 

with love

her kindness

CS

190.       cedars
235 posts
 08 Jan 2009 Thu 11:55 am

 

Quoting femmeous

 

i think palestinians wasted a lot chances given to them, spitting onto the kind hand. im 100%sure arabs will never let palestinians live in peace. palestinian arabs are pawns in the hand of wealthy spoiled by oil other arabs.

 

What chances,? to always live under israeli control! chekpoints everywhere.

to have settlements sprout like mushrooms between palestinian villages and land and water confiscated everyday by israelis?

you call this a fair chance given by a kind hand?

 

oh, because, jews are smart, they excavate everything, they have found many interesting basements underneath jerusalem. btw, i heard they did excavations near al-aqsa not under it. and why did you bring this up? has it any significanse to this topic?

 

they are excavating under al aqsa

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excavations_of_Al-Aqsa_Mosque

and it is a matter of great significance because there is a fear that the foundations of the mosque will be destabilized. may be they are smart but that does´nt give thim the right to excavate under the mosque, the land is not theirs!

 

This has a significance to this topic to show you that Israelis dont want peace, they keep on stiring up troubles here and there. They know the significance of the mosque to muslims and yet they deliberately excavate "under" the mosque.

 

 

oh my, what happent? did they learn a lesson from the past?

may be they did so they decided it is better to live in peace instead of continuing with this uggly war forever thus saving lives. Let´s hope the israelis learn as well. one can learn  from the defeat of the others no?

 During the war, about 100,000 Palestinian refugees fled to Lebanon (here starts all your troubles).

 

Exactly, thats where  all the troubles started, when the palestinians were kicked out of their homes and land by israelis and they had to go to the neighbouring countries.  

What do you expect to happen to all the people who were displaced, vanish in the nature or drown in the sea!

 

a war with israel was a mistake and a curse. lebanon will bear the consequences for very long, i reckon.

as long as the palestinian issue is not solved all neighbouring countries will suffer. In lebanon there are around 400 thousand palestinian refugees living in camps. Much more (I dont have exact numbers) are refugees living in camps in syria and jordan.

 

 

of course, there are lots of suicide bombers there, young boys from poor families and young women with a damaged reputation. they must be better checked.

they anyway smuggle weapon and terrorists underground and imagine if they had open airports they would have nuclear weapon by this time. israeli checkpoints caught lots of humanitarian aid trucks full of weapon instead of sugar or flour just from europe.

 

I havent heard of this news, but you may be right. 

again, i am sure if palestinians were given freedom and the possibility to live decently on their land you wouldnt hear of any suicide bombers again.

 

i personally have condemned them after what they did. as i said im not a prophet to predict the future. most of them now regret for siding up with terrorists, you sure know that or french tv is censored?

 

luckily the french TV is not censored and the french were the ones who took the picture few years ago  of that israeli soldier deliberately shooting at a helpless boy hiding behind a barrel with his father trying to protect him. here is a reminder

http://www.jehat.com/jehaat/images/sira/mohd_aldera.jpg

he was not a suicide bomber he was just a child coming back from school but to israelis all palestinian kids are potential suicide bombers no?

im not talking about the violence happent 20 years ago. if i follow your thinking, i too didnt hear you condemning the holocaust done on jews. but i dont follow your way of thinking.

 

We condemn the holocaust every second of the day believe me, first because it was inhuman injust and barbaric, and also because it gave a reason to some  jews to badly treat others and have a feeling of superiority. The sad thing is that no one can answer back because they would call you anti-semite and that is a crime you know. anti muslim or anti arab is not a crime on the contrary it is a virtue nowadays!

ooooo, i dont agree with you. this description belongs to lebanon of 40-50 years ago.

listen to this brave lady, she doesnt hide like you and doesnt hide her identity.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-8fa9yKQeTY

 

Your lady gabriel definitely twist the facts but then you are free to believe her.

Her parents were with what we call "the army of south lebanon" mainly a group of people "shi´a, druze and maronites" who collaborated with the israelis. After the israeli withdrawal from south lebanon fewyears ago (except from shib´a farms) most of them fled either to israel or to the states for fear of being brought to trial for treason.

 we are anyway very different.

 

Indeed we are and that is what makes the world beautiful, the diversity.

 

where did you take this from?

i took this from an islamic site

http://www.islamherald.com/asp/explore/iman/shahada/prerequisites_of_the_declaration2.asp

basically, muslims are not allowed to question and doubt about allah.

 

There are many school of thought in Islam.

One great philosopher and scholar is "al-ghazzali" (1058-1111) who belived that doubt is the only way to truth and in this matter he did anticipate Descartes. If you are interested in widening up your philosophical knowledge here is the link.

http://www.ghazali.org/articles/osmnbkr-dbt.htm

 

 

here, i again have to side with a common sense. many israeli civilians? apparently again you have met many israelis?

Yes indeed I did and I have good friends among them. Too bad I cannot always communicate with them as much as I please because in my country it might  be viewed as a "collaboration with the enemy"

 

you should finally open your eyes: theres no solution to this conflict.

There is always hope.

 

 

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