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200.       lemon
1374 posts
 11 Jun 2010 Fri 12:55 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

 

Strange. You are a member  here for years and you cannot understand Turkish. I think Kazakça is very similar to Turkish.

 

veririm - berermin

verirsin - berersiñ

verir - berer

veririz- berermiz

verirsiniz - berersiñder

verir(ler) - berer

 

yedim - jedim

yedin - jediñ

yedi - jedi

yedik - jedik

yediniz - jedisiñder

yedi(ler) - jedi

 

dilim - tilim

dilin - tiliñ

dili - tili

dilimiz - tilimiz

diliniz - tiliñiz

 

etc

 

This is a language learning site. I assume you know kazakça?? You should have learnt some Turkish by now. What are you here for??

 

I think I dont have an obligation of learning anything. My initial idea was to learn some Turkish, then it was put aside. Who knows maybe I will learn someday? At least I dont cross it off my list. Qudai qalasa ol da bolar. Bolmasa kim bilipti?  Wink

Your post has an accusation connotation, am I right?

201.       scalpel
1472 posts
 11 Jun 2010 Fri 01:58 pm

 

Quoting lemon

 

 

Qudai qalasa ol da bolar. Bolmasa kim bilipti?  Wink

 

 

Men bilipti, men bilipti! {#emotions_dlg.alcoholics}

 

I can´t imagine TLC without you, lemon. We need someone here to pinch us and let us know when we are going a bit too far in national pride, and you do it sooo well.{#emotions_dlg.bigsmile} But you are silent these days..I hope everything is OK with you.{#emotions_dlg.flowers}

202.       lemon
1374 posts
 11 Jun 2010 Fri 02:27 pm

 

Quoting scalpel

 

 

Men bilipti, men bilipti! {#emotions_dlg.alcoholics}

 

I can´t imagine TLC without you, lemon. We need someone here to pinch us and let us know when we are going a bit too far in national pride, and you do it sooo well.{#emotions_dlg.bigsmile} But you are silent these days..I hope everything is OK with you.{#emotions_dlg.flowers}

 

Wow, thank you I didnt know I had a fan in you. Sen bilsen ol durus bolgan.

 

I am silent? You must be blind - I am writing posts after posts. You probably dont see them because they dont fall into your interest.

203.       scalpel
1472 posts
 11 Jun 2010 Fri 03:31 pm

 

Quoting lemon

 

 

I am silent? You must be blind - I am writing posts after posts. You probably dont see them because they dont fall into your interest.

 

Opps!  Then I really must be blind! Thanks for opening my eyes. {#emotions_dlg.ty_ty}

204.       scalpel
1472 posts
 11 Jun 2010 Fri 04:40 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Well ´you smart boy´ 

Are you saying that ´something happened´ in 1915?.

 

Thank you for calling me "smart boy" {#emotions_dlg.ty_ty}

Yes, I admit, I am smart {#emotions_dlg.bigsmile}

At least smarter than you.{#emotions_dlg.lol}

That´s why you are bored of my smartness?Wink

And yes,{#emotions_dlg.yes} many things happened in 1915:

February

 

Friday 19:

The Battle of Gallipoli began.

 

March

 

Thursday 18:

Three battleships are sunk during a failed British & French naval attack on the Dardanelles.

April

Sunday 25:

The ANZAC tradition begins during World War I with a landing at Gallipoli on theTurkish coast.

 

December

 

Monday 20:

Last Australian troops evacuated from Gallipoli

 

(from wikipedia)

 

A jointBritish and French operation was mounted to capture the Ottoman capital of Istanbul,[6] and secure a sea route to Russia. The attempt failed, with heavy casualties on both sides.


 

 

Gallipoli casualties
Source: Australian Department of Veterans´ Affairs[35]
  DeadWoundedTotal
Total Allies 44,092 96,937 141,029
- United Kingdom 21,255 52,230 73,485
- France (estimated) 10,000 17,000 27,000
- Australia[4] 8,709 19,441 28,150
- New Zealand[4] 2,721 4,752 7,473
- British India 1,358 3,421 4,779
- Newfoundland 49 93 142
Ottoman empire (estimated) 86,692 164,617 251,309
Total (both sides) 130,784 261,554 392,338



 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



Edited (6/11/2010) by scalpel

205.       si++
3785 posts
 11 Jun 2010 Fri 07:48 pm

 

Quoting lemon

 

 

I think I dont have an obligation of learning anything. My initial idea was to learn some Turkish, then it was put aside. Who knows maybe I will learn someday? At least I dont cross it off my list. Qudai qalasa ol da bolar. Bolmasa kim bilipti?  Wink

Your post has an accusation connotation, am I right?

 

I am just surprised. Қазақша looks familiar to me (for example those here) and can follow what it is about roughly. You cannot do it for Türkçe? I would expect better than that from you since you hang around here regularly. I am disappointed.Wink 

206.       lemon
1374 posts
 11 Jun 2010 Fri 09:08 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

 

I am just surprised. Қазақша looks familiar to me (for example those here) and can follow what it is about roughly. You cannot do it for Türkçe? I would expect better than that from you since you hang around here regularly. I am disappointed.Wink 

 

Turkce is sooooooo soft and mild in comparison to rough and wild Kazakh. I listened to TV and Radio in Turkish and I tell you, you Turks speak so fast that I am not able to catch a single word. I used to learn some Turkish on cleaning products, {#emotions_dlg.shy} comparing to Polish and guessing some words. I am sure if I made some effort in learning I would learn it quickly.

 

I am surprised that you can recognise Cyrillic. They say they are gonna convert our Alphabet from Cyrilic to Latin in a Turkish pattern. I think it would be nice and comfortable in the aspect of modern technology. It is still in plan since early ´90.

 

I loved your singer Feryal Başel singing this song

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTyn7odZr7k

 

A perfect voice, and zero accent. I never thought that anyone could sing it except Rymbayeva.

207.       si++
3785 posts
 11 Jun 2010 Fri 09:17 pm

 

Quoting lemon

 

 

Turkce is sooooooo soft and mild in comparison to rough and wild Kazakh. I listened to TV and Radio in Turkish and I tell you, you Turks speak so fast that I am not able to catch a single word. I used to learn some Turkish on cleaning products, {#emotions_dlg.shy} comparing to Polish and guessing some words. I am sure if I made some effort in learning I would learn it quickly.

 

I am surprised that you can recognise Cyrillic. They say they are gonna convert our Alphabet from Cyrilic to Latin in a Turkish pattern. I think it would be nice and comfortable in the aspect of modern technology. It is still in plan since early ´90.

 

I loved your singer Feryal Başel singing this song

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTyn7odZr7k

 

A perfect voice, and zero accent. I never thought that anyone could sing it except Rymbayeva.

 

I watched some Kazakh film on TRT-avaz and I can hardly follow it. But written texts are more comprehensible. You can figure out most of the text.

 

I have started to recognise Cyrillic recently. I used to find it hard but I´m getting comfortable.

 

208.       yilgun-2010
572 posts
 17 Jun 2010 Thu 02:20 pm

According to the Sciences statistics:


There are big differences in cultures , in everywhere, in every country,


In every ethnic group, in every family, in the world.


According to world statistics, the world population is 6-7 billion. Of this population,


only 4-5% are well-educated…


The rest of this population are uncultured and ignorant.


This number demonstrates the sad and grave state of the world. 


But could there be a danger for more potential graveness than this?


For example there are 72 nations, 72 separate ethnic cultures, many religions, many languages


and different worlds in the highly developed countries,


like USA, England, France, Canada, Australia, etc..


There are a lot of cultures in your country.


Do you recognize them?


Do you know the ethnic groups in your country?


Do you know the World Civilizations?


At first, you should talk about “The differences  in  culture  in your country,


the differences  between your ethnic culture and others in your country  ”


In fact  there is no pure national community in the world according to the science.


There are also big differences between well-educated people and ignorant people.


I realise that there are big differences among the cultures and ethnic groups


and social/personal status in every country like your country in the world.


This is a plain truth, scientific truth.


We are living in the same boat.


Shall you sink the boat?


And I think understanding –maturity- is the precondition among people


for a peaceful world.



Edited (6/17/2010) by yilgun-2010
Edited (6/17/2010) by yilgun-2010

209.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 17 Jun 2010 Thu 09:22 pm

It depends on what you call "well-educated". High-school level education is WAY more than 4-5%

210.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 17 Jun 2010 Thu 09:30 pm

Interesting article I found today.  It is about Kurds in Iraq who practice female genital mutilation (is this common in Turkey?).  In my opinion, it lends support to the idea that some Kurds live by very primative value systems.  I am in no way saying that this happens with all Kurds, but I think it says something about their culture...at least a percentage of them.  The fact that it is thought of as "not a big issue" by government officials is very disturbing to me.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/17/world/middleeast/17kurd.html



Edited (6/17/2010) by Elisabeth
Edited (6/17/2010) by Elisabeth

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