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02 Nov 2009 Mon 08:14 pm |
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Oh - I only worked in the NHS for 20 years - I thought I saw a lot of foreign House Officers  - and a lot of native British doctors having to seek jobs abroad because there were too many junior doctors after too few jobs.
Only 20 years 
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02 Nov 2009 Mon 08:14 pm |
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Well sorry but what I say is fact - they are still doing it, this time recently GPs were brought here after British GPs said theywould not work after hours. Blame the government, NOT the foreign doctors 
Not blaming the foreign doctors - just telling you a huge number of them get their training in the UK!
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02 Nov 2009 Mon 08:15 pm |
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Didn´t see your comment Christine! How you doing??
I am doing fine thank you and hope you are also
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02 Nov 2009 Mon 08:16 pm |
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Only 20 years
Ok - I was a late starter! 20 years was enough to know what goes on though, don´t you agree??
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02 Nov 2009 Mon 08:18 pm |
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20 years was enough to know what goes on though, don´t you agree??
Nice sarcasm but it does not change the fact that the Government actively encouraged foreign doctors to work in the UK. 20 years of working with them does not change that FACT 
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02 Nov 2009 Mon 08:21 pm |
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Nice sarcasm but it does not change the fact that the Government actively encouraged foreign doctors to work in the UK. 20 years of working with them does not change that FACT
I wasn´t being sarcastic 
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02 Nov 2009 Mon 08:23 pm |
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Not blaming the foreign doctors - just telling you a huge number of them get their training in the UK!
Again - blame the government, not them! But as I said, many were brought here TRAINED. Taken from the British Medical Journal (BMJ):-
Guidance from the UK government that restricts the right of thousands of foreign doctors to work in the NHS was ruled unlawful by the United Kingdom’s highest court, the House of Lords, last week.
The law lords’ ruling, by a 4:1 majority, is a victory for the British Association of Physicians of Indian Origin (BAPIO), which challenged the guidance, issued two years ago by the health secretary at the time, Patricia Hewitt. It should secure the future for thousands of doctors, mainly from the Indian subcontinent, who were encouraged to come to the UK under the highly skilled migrant programme to help staff the NHS.
Edited (11/2/2009) by TheAenigma
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02 Nov 2009 Mon 08:24 pm |
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Not so actually. The NHS employs over ONE THIRD of "foreign" doctors (who are trained at their own country´s expense), and we could not survive without them. In addition, doctors from overseas are "lured" into the UK with promises of jobs and then let down and end up living in poverty. People who object to foreign doctors in hospitals should remember that WE bring them to the UK, at OUR request and our health system could not survive without them.
I totally agree that we could not survive without them and in all my years working in the NHS as a qualified nurse i have worked with some lovely foreign doctors, but i totally disagree that some are let down and live in poverty.
Well sorry but what I say is fact - they are still doing it, this time recently GPs were brought here after British GPs said theywould not work after hours. Blame the government, NOT the foreign doctors
No one is blaming the foreign doctors and we all know what a mess the goverment has made of our heath service.
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02 Nov 2009 Mon 08:32 pm |
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Again - blame the government, not them! But as I said, many were brought here TRAINED. Taken from the British Medical Journal (BMJ):-
Guidance from the UK government that restricts the right of thousands of foreign doctors to work in the NHS was ruled unlawful by the United Kingdom’s highest court, the House of Lords, last week.
The law lords’ ruling, by a 4:1 majority, is a victory for the British Association of Physicians of Indian Origin (BAPIO), which challenged the guidance, issued two years ago by the health secretary at the time, Patricia Hewitt. It should secure the future for thousands of doctors, mainly from the Indian subcontinent, who were encouraged to come to the UK under the highly skilled migrant programme to help staff the NHS.
Yes they come to the UK to train, and a large number of them then return to their home countries - where, especially in the Indian subcontinent - they can set up in private practice with the added kudos of an MRCP qualification. I don´t blame them but don´t say they don´t get as much advantage from us as we do from them. And it doesn´t alter the fact that it makes it harder and harder for doctors born in the UK (of whatever race or creed) to compete for jobs because in recent years there have been too many doctors for the junior post positions available in the UK.
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02 Nov 2009 Mon 08:46 pm |
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"They are among thousands of overseas doctors who have flocked to Britain in the past five years in response to the NHS´s global appeal for more staff. But instead of finding hospitals ready to welcome them, they face unemployment, poverty and discrimination."
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/the-jobless-doctors-from-overseas-who-live-in-poverty-521378.html
Incidently if you check the EU´s Medicine webpage, the NHS are STILL asking for migrant medical staff!!!!
What you read about the NHS and what you see when you work in it can be very different - however I don´t work in it any longer thank god so maybe I´m not qualified to argue with you!
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