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'Anatolian women''
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30 May 2007 Wed 11:52 pm |
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Quoting mltm: Quoting qdemir: Quoting mltm: But usually the hopes of these people are small, limited to just being like their mothers, marrying, having children etc. Expecting a turkish village girl to be a big women's right defender is far from reality.
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'a big women's right defender'; can you define in detail?
And what's wrong with marrying and having children? |
I think you've got me wrong. I try to say that a girl that has grown up in a village or in a small anatolian city can not have the mentality of catwoman forexample.And there's nothnig wrong in marrying and having children, I would be the same if I were a village girl. We are all the products of our societies. |
Is catwoman a big women's right defender?
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31 May 2007 Thu 12:02 am |
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This is 'Turkish Class' web site, so we discuss 'Turkey' here, not 'Poland'. I don't even get it where the topic of Poland came from if not from qdemir's attempt to attack me for my opinion about Turkish women's situation (what was so hurtful in it anyway?). I don't have to respond to his question in such a context and it doesn't mean that I'm avoiding this topic or that I'm oblivious to what is happening in my own backyard.
Mltm, you are very wrong about me. I don't know how you concluded from my last post that I'm blind  I think that you just decided for me what it is that I think and don't care to actually look through the old impression... You are judgmental about me but attack me for being judgmental, so weird...
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31 May 2007 Thu 12:08 am |
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Yes, as you said it's not a symbol of a religion, but if we go to an anatolian village, I'm sure the majority of women dress in traditional clothes, not in jeans and t-shirts, and not just in the black sea region, in all parts of Turkey. Why would you think that just the black sea women wear like this? This is very common in villages. |
ım talking about this video...and u should think about enviromental condition such as climate,it is main factor that affect clothes...it is so difficult to wear jeans, t shirt in that region..cos u can feel few season at the same day...in northern finland, men and women wear almost same things such as SAMI(it is a nation in finland)....
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31 May 2007 Thu 12:12 am |
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by the way my cousin was also wearing all these till she entered university in isatnbul but she wears jeans etc. in istanbul but she wears triditional clothes when she went to blacksea..it is her choice...good night u all
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31 May 2007 Thu 12:18 am |
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Quoting catwoman: This is 'Turkish Class' web site, so we discuss 'Turkey' here, not 'Poland'. I don't even get it where the topic of Poland came from if not from from qdemir's attempt to attack me for my opinion about Turkish women's situation (what was so hurtful in it anyway?). I don't have to respond to his question in such a context and it doesn't mean that I'm avoiding this topic or that I'm oblivious to what is happening in my own backyard.
Mltm, you are very wrong about me. I don't know how you concluded from my last post that I'm blind I think that you just decided what it is that I think and don't care to actually look through the old impression... You are judgmental about me but attack me for being judgmental, so weird... |
'He attacks me, she attacks me, you attack me!'. Why does everybody attack you, catwoman? Does asking you a simple question to answer, or not agreeing with you on any subject, or replying you always mean attacking you?
And do we always talk about Turkey and the Turkish on here?
I didn't know it.
You may regard this post as an attack, too!
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31 May 2007 Thu 12:24 am |
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reading posts - having fun.
hmmm... i havent noticed anyone telling that wearing traditional (in its way sympathetic) anatolian garments is bad.
i understood mltm was only stating that those women marry and raise children only, she didnt say it was wrong, but some people love twisting words.
as far as i know it happens so that the majority of village women think only of marriage and children, nothing more beyond, understandable they are raised so since their birth and most of them even dont see any other alternative to that style. also understandable.
why just stating facts hurts people? a complex?
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31 May 2007 Thu 12:27 am |
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Quoting qdemir: 'He attacks me, she attacks me, you attack me!'. Why does everybody attack you, catwoman? Does asking you a simple question to answer, or not agreeing with you on any subject, or replying you always mean attacking you? |
Thanks for pointing this out to me, looks like I'm abusing a word  . Though it's sad that that's the deepest you could get here  ... and I thought you claim that you actually wanted to discuss things , oh well..
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31 May 2007 Thu 12:31 am |
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Quoting catwoman:
Mltm, you are very wrong about me. I don't know how you concluded from my last post that I'm blind I think that you just decided for me what it is that I think and don't care to actually look through the old impression... You are judgmental about me but attack me for being judgmental, so weird... |
I don't attack you, I criticize you, and you do this to me as well.
I criticize you because I always see you criticizing the turkish women for being weak, submissive etc and the turkish men oppressing the women, but never talking about the reasons. You just blame and get angry at. You never analyze.
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31 May 2007 Thu 12:34 am |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting qdemir: 'He attacks me, she attacks me, you attack me!'. Why does everybody attack you, catwoman? Does asking you a simple question to answer, or not agreeing with you on any subject, or replying you always mean attacking you? |
Thanks for pointing this out to me, looks like I'm abusing a word . Though it's sad that that's the deepest you could get here ... and I thought you claim that you actually wanted to discuss things , oh well.. |
I think you had better revise the site rules.
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31 May 2007 Thu 12:38 am |
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I will add just my small meaning to this subject shortly.
I cant look behind peoples eyes and see their true thoughts when I dont know them, but the lines of life on the faces of the women in traditional lcothing in İzmir that sell herbs on the streets tell a 1000 stories. But in most of the women, one of these stories is content, satisfied with their lives. Maybe because of not knowing better, maybe because this is Turkish lifestyle in many parts and.. Turkish people maybe live with lots of pain, but all the eyes I have seen carry life in them.
All I wished for is that people would get equal chances in education. Then, you can decide for yourself what you would want to do. But at least the choice will be yours.
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31 May 2007 Thu 12:43 am |
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Quoting mltm: I don't attack you, I criticize you, and you do this to me as well.
I criticize you because I always see you criticizing the turkish women for being weak, submissive etc and the turkish men oppressing the women, but never talking about the reasons. You just blame and get angry at. You never analyze. |
You don't criticize me for "not analyzing" though mltm
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