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'Anatolian women''
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31 May 2007 Thu 07:28 pm |
I believe what ı see. I saw someone swearing our constution courts, some school girls praying at school secretly and fighting with their parents for it. Didn't you see all of them? They were actual taping, not someone elses opinion!
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31 May 2007 Thu 07:36 pm |
if they praying secretly thats not fault of this innocent kids and i think courts not holy offices,so we all can critise courts' decisions,i don't want make any disrespect to a teacher,but i think you don't think events objective
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31 May 2007 Thu 07:41 pm |
Quoting MrX67: theres no place for double standard in democracies,u r either democrat or not,how can you force other one to live like you or to think like you,if the people don't give any harm to rules??? |
Oldu..
In democracy, there is no endless freedom. Suppose a person going to work with a shorts and t-shirt and says this clothing is because of my religion, beliefs, what will you do? How can you surmount of this? Every state or even every company and firm has its own rules about wearing, and you should have to follow those rules, there is nowhere endless freedom. You have to follow the rules if you want to obtain rights.
Quoting MrX67: news??huh,do you believe all news objective???? |
The only objective is you here?
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31 May 2007 Thu 07:46 pm |
Quoting armegon: Quoting MrX67: theres no place for double standard in democracies,u r either democrat or not,how can you force other one to live like you or to think like you,if the people don't give any harm to rules??? |
Oldu..
In democracy, there is no endless freedom. Suppose a person going to work with a shorts and t-shirt and says this clothing is because of my religion, beliefs, what will you do? How can you surmount of this? Every state or even every company and firm has its own rules about wearing, and you should have to follow those rules, there is nowhere endless freedom. You have to follow the rules if you want to obtain rights.
Quoting MrX67: news??huh,do you believe all news objective???? |
The only objective is you here? |
i didn't say that i'm only arkadaş,but thats such a big paradox in ur democracy opinions and such an extrem words for defence somethings???
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31 May 2007 Thu 07:49 pm |
Not holy offices yes, but still they are the one makes laws and keeps democracy alive. This is what ı was talking about before. Rules! Innocent kids can pray at their home. School takes 6 hours most, they will miss just 1 or 2 pray which is allowed to join the next one. So this is not about praying, this is about brainwashing, raising political support for next 10 years. No body is against anybody's beliefs here. Go some appropriate place and do whatever you need to do. This is showing off, pushing authorities to do something. Since religion is strict dogma, nobody will ask " can't you do your praying at home with the way your parents does?"
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31 May 2007 Thu 07:52 pm |
no worries,if it goes this way they will ask at home even as ssson as.well,sure we all have to observe common rules,especially on public areas and places,and secualrism is the one of strongest balance of all democraices,noone of can't deny that,but as if you don't know and live in our traditions,and as if u r strangers of the people which you born and raised in???
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31 May 2007 Thu 07:56 pm |
which one of us can say i love this country more then everyone,and how come some part of people can say we r the guaranties of this country,this country all of us and we all have to love it more then each other and respect to rules in democratical criterions,and we all have to hug and accept each other with our all sweet differences...
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31 May 2007 Thu 07:58 pm |
more tolerance,more respect,more friendship,more endurance,all em really difficult things?????
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31 May 2007 Thu 08:01 pm |
Are you resisting to understand? My parents are traditional muslims and ı have raised as one. But never attempt to do anything to broke the rules of democrasy or secularism. Islam says you have to teach the religion to your kids. My parents taught me to love my god, prophet, how to pray, how to respect also, love my country, Atatürk, obey the rules of republic. Thats the way I am. If you want to pray at school hours, our religion says you can do it even with blinking and thinking. Making some secret places at public area means you are against the rules at my book. What it means in your book? Being a good muslim at age 13?
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31 May 2007 Thu 08:05 pm |
Quoting aslı: Are you resisting to understand? My parents are traditional muslims and ı have raised as one. But never attempt to do anything to broke the rules of democrasy or secularism. Islam says you have to teach the religion to your kids. My parents taught me to love my god, prophet, how to pray, how to respect also, love my country, Atatürk, obey the rules of republic. Thats the way I am. If you want to pray at school hours, our religion says you can do it even with blinking and thinking. Making some secret places at public area means you are against the rules at my book. What it means in your book? Being a good muslim at age 13? |
i think a teacher have to me more tolreated then others for grow more peacfull generations,and a teacher have to be calm for to be model for all people????i don't say noone have any right to break rules of this great,big,wonderfull and lovely country's rules,i'm just trying to say democracy is the life style,and you can't do it only with rules,you have to live it and you have to feel it....
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31 May 2007 Thu 08:12 pm |
I did not made the rules that says you can not wear scarf on public places you can not leave your job at job hours (school too) This are not my rules they are braking. Republican rules. I see some of you still think "no harm with praying" well for your children's sake think twice, will they let your grandsons live however they wants?
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