I don't think your comparing apples to apples when referring to white supremacists. They do exist, however they are an isolated group of individuals.

I think the question arises from Islam even "moderate Islam" do they really believe in religous freedom?

A couple examples which sometimes raises my doubts..

Muslim women who convert to Christianity are prohibited from marrying Christian men, while children of converts are regarded as Muslims and educated as Muslims. Even in death, converts must be buried as Muslims.

Preaching on Saudi state television from the holy mosque in Medina, Shaykh Salah Bin-Muhammad al-Budayr hailed Ramadan, concluding his sermon (according to a translation at www.imra.org.il): "O God, support Islam and Muslims and destroy the enemies of Islam, including Jews, Christians and atheists. . . . O God, deal with the Jews for they are within your power. . . O God, shake the land under their feet, instill fear in their hearts and make them a booty for Muslims and a lesson to others."

Such sermonizing is quite common in the Muslim world. It may show a commitment to something, but religious freedom?

My parents were married in the '60's in south-east Germany. My parents at the time were of different Christian faith at the time, Roman Catholic and Protestant.
Both sides of my family were unhappy that this was a "mixed marraige". Like all religions, those that you feel are too extreme in islam will evntually moderate over time.
But I have to agree with Mr.X here. This is indeed a sore that has closed and has been healing at TC for the last several months. Whats the point of opening the scab and making it bleed again???

As most of you know, I live in Texas. I am not originally from here...I lived in the Northeastern part of the US for most of my life. I too thought racial hatred was a thing of the past...I also thought that religious differences didn't make a difference...but I can promise you that they do. The KKK is very much alive and very much out in the open in some eastern Texas communities. They rally every Saturday in front of local supermarkets and leave their literature everywhere for anyone to read (including my 11 year old son). They hate everyone (blacks, catholics, hispanics, jews, muslims, homosexuals)...anyone who is not what they consider "pure white". They have internet websites, radio, television stations to spread their hate as well. It's really quite disgusting and if a Muslim person wanted to find an audio, video bite of a Christian(or someone claiming to be)screaming and yelling and saying terrible things about Muslims, its not hard to find.

I think there are some people that just hate everyone. I think the media does tend to make it seem like every Muslim hates every Christian or Jew...and I know of some who do. But for the most part, most of the Muslims I know are not that different from me. The media loves to perpetuate the fear between the East and the West. I know many of us have been to Turkey and as for myself, I can say, I have never been threatened by a Muslim. However, I would not go to a small town in East Texas with a T-Shirt saying, "Kiss me I'm Catholic".

I have to say that the UK bends over backwards to assist Muslims, everything they ask for is provided. Schools, mosques, halal food etc. They are renowned for not integrating into communities, it is a case of he who shouts loudest and they shout loud and they get.

Then they repay our hospitality by blowing up hundreds of people in our undergrounds and transport system and we are still tolerant. Then we find that there are a group of muslims who wanted to blow up a series of planes from Heathrow, in flight. So what are we supposed to think?

We know that not all Muslims are the same, so we don't tar all with the same brush. But you cannot help looking with distain when you are confronted in an underground carriage and you are the only white person in it. I find myself eyeing up who is beside me....just in case.

I must say that the muslims I am referring to are not Turkish, they are generally middle eastern origin, but what we call "home grown", they are born in the UK of Middle eastern parentage, usually Afgans and Pakistanis.

Alameda, your response is again a classic mix of avoidance, denial and attack as a form of defense.

First of all, there is no reason to think that it's a few 'bad apples'. While it's not all Muslims that are hateful, there are no Muslims who are against the hate of the loud group. In fact, if you survey the Muslims for their opinions about the acts of terror and hatred, majority will either approve or support, very few condemn. So there is no reason to say that it's 'few bad apples', it's just denial.

Western involvement with problems in the Middle East are wrong and the whole world is against them. It's a separate issue.

Muslims who immigrate to the UK and the West have to integrate, otherwise they have no right to claim benefits from living in those countries. If they cannot respect the rules of those countries and the people who live there, they need to go back where they came from.

I would like to think if you loath a society so much you would choose not to live there?? As disgusting as the white supremest groups are I would say the most significant difference would be that they don't relocate and surround themselves with a society of people that sickens them. I do find it odd that some muslim people would move to the very country they despise.