I don´t remember it being a long debate actually... I said "wrong spelling", somebody said "why?", I said why I thought so, and they told me I was wrong. I checked, I was wrong, and I said sorry Big whoop! Turns out ven is a Dutch (or perhaps even a local) abbreviation. I guess the long debate thing came from other people laughing at me for being wrong. Don´t care that much actually, everybody gets something wrong once in a while. At least I admit it This one isn´t has bad as the time I made a horrible dyslectic/nervous mistake during my first ever official English class. I spelled tomatoes wrong on the blackboard... ARGH!

  I never do this! 

 Normally I don´t either... great timing...

  Don´t worry about it barba_mama there are a lot of tetchy people on here. If you had put a "t" behind your dutch ven you would have vent which in english is a ventilator. A fan is a ventilator with moving blades. Now we have inventor Dyson with a fan without moving blades so do not feel to despondent.

BMcim - nobody laughed at you for being wrong, I think the fan discussion got a bit lenghty because you insisted on using the word ven (or rendering the word fan as incorrect) even though natives said it was perfectly all right . So, you know, it was as if I claimed that klompschoen should be called klompshoes

I never do this either   I am more than perfect.

(a while ago we had to shoot some video for our company and I was supposed to speak greetings -basically 10 words- I was blocked, I knew It was going to the Central. Actions more than 10 times. At the end I sounded like Mr. Bean. A complete embarassment I never forget.)

Dyson is my favourite cleaner. Shame I cant take it with me.

AHHHH! Okay, so THAT was it. Thank you. We have this saying in Holland, I heard the bell but didn´t know where the clapper was. Means something like, I heard about it, I was getting in the right direction, but didn´t really know what it was exactly.

No I didn´t...somebody said, ven is wrong... I checked, I agreed. That was it. The only reason the discussion got lengthy is because everybody wanted to put their two cents in. The biggest bulk of this "discussion" was actually about the discussion itself, not about fan/ven/vent. If you can show me where I "insist" on using the word ven, I will say sorry again.

Now that Lemon and I have shared are moments of glory, how about other people sharing them to have a moment of total laughter at everybody´s expense

A news article and a column:

The news article is :

Real voice of Ataturk was found..

According to the news sources, they developed some of the videos in cultural ministery and found that the real voice of Ataturk was not ´a light voice´ we used to hear: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_z2Yz8d1PE T

They said :His voice  sounded like more resonant  and deep!!!

And then, the ex head of Turkish Historical society Halacoglu said ´he agreed with the idea that  Ataturk had not a light or pale voice´..

The source is here 

http://www.haberform.com..-ataturk-konusma-dinle-abdulhamid-59880.htm

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Wow..Thanks god, one of the greatest problem of Turkey has been solved.. ´Why Ataturk had a light and pale voice´ was bothering all of us!!

Then

The column which made me laugh alot..

The title of the column is ´Voice of Ataturk is not light, voice of Ataturk is not light!!´

After explaining the peculiarity of the efforts and the joy with the discovery that Ataturk´s voice was not a light voice!! 

This is what he wrote in the last lines of the column :

Defalarca yazdim, izah etmeye çalistim, diller döktüm, sonuç alamadim, yine tekrarliyorum: Biz hastayiz. Topluca hastayiz. Tedavi olmamiz gerekiyor.

Translated as: 

I wrote many times; I tried to explain; but I could not get my message across , I am repeating again:

We are unwell. We are unwell alltogether.. We need madication!!

So, is there a youtube movie with the new "low" voice? We need proof of this! All these years of deception....

Presumedly you are wrong, anybody ever seen Barba wrong? I am sure she switches off her cell phone when she gets on a bus, a model citizen, all you should envy.