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Turkey cannot turn its back on democracy
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60.       libralady
5152 posts
 30 Apr 2007 Mon 10:42 pm

So how did the speech go tonight?

61.       aslı
342 posts
 30 Apr 2007 Mon 10:43 pm

This is not democracy. Who is representing me and fighting for my rights now? And if they fights, is 36 of congress enough for the represent of %64 of Turkey? I love Ataturk, Ilove Turkish republic and I love who loves this country as much as me(love this country the way it is, "Turkish Republic").

62.       qdemir
813 posts
 30 Apr 2007 Mon 10:47 pm

Quoting KeithL:

Quoting qdemir:

Quoting KeithL:

Thats not what I hear from those I know with children in school. And others feel the same way. This is the same man that banned alcohol in istanbul 10 years ago. He or Gul, or any other AK Party leader cannot be trusted as President.

And if they are so good for economy, then why has TUSIAD also spoken out against them?



Who, when, where, why, how!? I didn't know that.



Erdogan was mayor of Istanbul in the 1990's. And when he was mayor, he tried to ban the sale of alcohol in Istanbul. He did this by introducing a law saying it was forbidden to sell alcohol within "100 or 200" meters of camii's. Well, there are camii's everywhere. So this law would have shut down every pub in Istanbul.



Only the parliment is entitled to enact any legislation, and in some cases the council of ministers is allowed to enact some legislation by decrees.

According to an existing law, no bar, night club etc is allowed to be opened within 100m from any school. However, unfortunately the law isn't put into practice in big cities.

63.       janissary
0 posts
 30 Apr 2007 Mon 10:54 pm

Quoting aslı:

We should discuss about law of elections. Because they are there for 36 percent. But they represent 64 of congress. Do you think this is fair? Democracy is not system. It is a way of living. And has to protect itself. If not, there wont be a democracy at all. It is hard to reach in this condition for fundemantalist which they are in now. So they have to protect their places. They have to change all of the republican basics, so they could get all the power and never give it back. Lighten up, they are the wolves who looks like sheep!



18 percent governed turkey before AKP but nobody said this is unfair at that time. and they caused a big ecomomic crise. that s why turkish nation didnt let them to go in Turkish Grand National Assembly again. Rules can change but not for some ppl. all of the leftist parties were in cağlayan but they will see others in next election....

64.       ruthless87
38 posts
 30 Apr 2007 Mon 10:59 pm

Quoting janissary:

Quoting aslı:

We should discuss about law of elections. Because they are there for 36 percent. But they represent 64 of congress. Do you think this is fair? Democracy is not system. It is a way of living. And has to protect itself. If not, there wont be a democracy at all. It is hard to reach in this condition for fundemantalist which they are in now. So they have to protect their places. They have to change all of the republican basics, so they could get all the power and never give it back. Lighten up, they are the wolves who looks like sheep!



18 percent governed turkey before AKP but nobody said this is unfair at that time. and they caused a big ecomomic crise. that s why turkish nation didnt let them to go in Turkish Grand National Assembly again. Rules can change but not for some ppl. all of the leftist parties were in cağlayan but they will see others in next election....


If you are calling CHP a leftist party, All i can say to you(although Deniz Baykal(Chairman of CHP) is General Secretary of Socialist International (?)) CHP is on right of MHP(BNP of Turkey for those who know English politics)

65.       libralady
5152 posts
 30 Apr 2007 Mon 11:14 pm

Quoting libralady:

So how did the speech go tonight?



?????

66.       janissary
0 posts
 30 Apr 2007 Mon 11:16 pm

Quoting libralady:

Quoting libralady:

So how did the speech go tonight?



?????



it was a good speech.

67.       aslı
342 posts
 30 Apr 2007 Mon 11:20 pm

You are still on right- left. This is not about that. Are you ready to be forced on their rules, wear turban, join some cult, not to go somewhere without some male relative male with you? Go ahead! This is not about righties or lefties. By the way are calling Atatürk on left? Funny. Atatürk knows his nation's nature. That s why he removed caliph. But I guess some of you ready and willing to obey one again.

68.       janissary
0 posts
 30 Apr 2007 Mon 11:24 pm

Quoting aslı:

You are still on right- left. This is not about that. Are you ready to be forced on their rules, wear turban, join some cult, not to go somewhere without some male relative male with you? Go ahead! This is not about righties or lefties. By the way are calling Atatürk on left? Funny. Atatürk knows his nation's nature. That s why he removed caliph. But I guess some of you ready and willing to obey one again.




nobody forced me to do these things for 4 years. he is prime minister for 4 years. why I cant see these things???

69.       janissary
0 posts
 30 Apr 2007 Mon 11:31 pm

I really dont understand... if they are really against secularism and modernism. why they worked very hard for joining EU and succceed to get a date...

70.       aslı
342 posts
 30 Apr 2007 Mon 11:41 pm

Anyone here heard about trojan horse? Until you in the castle you need to be look and behave nice. Once you are in, swords can be use! Read about Iran, learn how they became like this. Not with swords, not with face to face fighting. Democratic elections, after a couple years; you are not sure that, milkman knocking on your door. First of all they shot the pilots at 3 am in their home so any of the precious fighter Plane could not escape!

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