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I hate a belly dance
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30.       femme_fatal
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 25 Sep 2007 Tue 09:56 pm

Quoting alameda:

The term Belly Dance was it seems, invented by the French, who called it La danse du ventre. In Egypt is was called Raqs Sharqi or Baladi dance. It can or can not be art...then what is Art?

Traditionally "good girls" did not do it in public. In fact in most Middle Eastern societies it is tantamount to being a prostitute or very close to it.

That in fact was how classic ballet was looked at in the early part of the 20th century. The famous Pavlova's husband would not marry her because she was "a ballerina" Later when he went bankrupt and she went on a world tour to repair his finances, he wanted to marry her. She did marry him, but told him not to tell anyone as it would ruin her reputation.


wow! how amazing you are! oh, and how clever! thank you for educating us on ballet and its history!
belly dance contra ballet?
ok, ballet at the beginning wasnt smth widely accepted, and?
how about belly dance? was it accepted in the beginning and then it wasnt? or vice versa? or whatever?
how come ballet have anything to do with stupid belly dance that makes all the men die out of lust?

31.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 25 Sep 2007 Tue 10:17 pm

Quoting Badiabdancer74:

You guys are really uneducated about bellydance. some of the Turkish dancers I saw in Istanbul were pretty sleazy, except Birgul. I can see where you might draw a parallel if you see some of them to striptease. I have studied in Egypt, where the best Oriental dancers are and a little in Turkey, I take this dance very seriously. There are morons who call themselves bellydancer dance like a hoochie mama and call it bellydance.Yeah, that's not Oriental dance. Bellydancing IS NOT STRIPTEASE in the U.S. Oriental dancers are usually women of good moral character and education who also study the dance. Strippers are usually very young girls, who do it for the money.



did you think they were discussing about belly dancing seriously...

the thing they were talking about is about those COMMENTS that you get... yeah there are some critics... but the general about...

hey sexy
let me play and you dance...bla bla...

this is what they are talking about

and also... you have lack of light on your videos...

32.       elham
579 posts
 25 Sep 2007 Tue 10:39 pm

Quoting alameda:

The term Belly Dance was it seems, invented by the French, who called it La danse du ventre. In Egypt is was called Raqs Sharqi or Baladi dance. It can or can not be art...then what is Art?

Traditionally "good girls" did not do it in public. In fact in most Middle Eastern societies it is tantamount to being a prostitute or very close to it.

That in fact was how classic ballet was looked at in the early part of the 20th century. The famous Pavlova's husband would not marry her because she was "a ballerina" Later when he went bankrupt and she went on a world tour to repair his finances, he wanted to marry her. She did marry him, but told him not to tell anyone as it would ruin her reputation.


as you said alameda Belly Dance called Raqs Sharqi or Baladi dance, but in In Egypt men are not dancing belly dance because men dance is not any attraction but particularly for women contents of the attraction, there are dances for men but not bely dance, perhaps I am wrong, Im merely bystanders not an expert of belly dance

33.       elham
579 posts
 25 Sep 2007 Tue 10:43 pm

Quoting SuiGeneris:


did you think they were discussing about belly dancing seriously...

the thing they were talking about is about those COMMENTS that you get... yeah there are some critics... but the general about...

hey sexy
let me play and you dance...bla bla...

this is what they are talking about

and also... you have lack of light on your videos...


what do you mean?

34.       Gümüş
posts
 25 Sep 2007 Tue 10:48 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

sex sex sex



Sounds like you could do with some

35.       alameda
3499 posts
 25 Sep 2007 Tue 10:54 pm

Some say there is a relationship between "Belly Dance" Raqs Sharqi, or whatever you want to call it, and the Polynesian dances. In particular those of Hawaii and Tahiti.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLXa6AaGIH0&mode=related&search=

Movements are similar...

36.       elham
579 posts
 25 Sep 2007 Tue 10:59 pm

i think it is enough to discuss this topic , it turned the opposite direction

37.       Badiabdancer74
382 posts
 25 Sep 2007 Tue 11:06 pm

Yes...I've got bad lighting! like 10 people have commented on that...especially the ones done in my living room. I really am a professional dancer but have 0 computer skills so getting any good video onto my computer has not been done. There is a stage show I was in posted by another user, but the lighting there is too harsh. Yes, ballet did have an influence on Raks Sharqi, especially in Egypt. Folk dances + ballet + early movie Divas + people trying to make money from tourists + dancers = early Egyptian Raqs Sharqi. Bellydance is again taken from that. Many types...many styles.

38.       portokal
2516 posts
 25 Sep 2007 Tue 11:16 pm

Quoting Vorhon:


And especially in egypt there are man bely dancers.
There is a few man belly dancer in turkey too.




Quoting elham:


men dance is not any attraction but particularly for women contents of the attraction



Now why is this giving me the idea of an another thread?

39.       portokal
2516 posts
 26 Sep 2007 Wed 12:51 am

Quoting Badiabdancer74:

Now there is some good information! I have videos on youtube you may or may not like. Egyptian style and Turkish style. search Badia in you are interested. I agree whoever said 'bellydance is not an erotic activity' THANK YOU! You don't have to be skinny to do it, like they are in Turkey. In fact in Egypt they tend to be a little larger, with ample hips and buttocks.



I wathced your videos. I liked especially Turkish drum solo. It was beautiful. thank you.

40.       alameda
3499 posts
 26 Sep 2007 Wed 01:02 am

"as you said alameda Belly Dance called Raqs Sharqi or Baladi dance, but in In Egypt men are not dancing belly dance because men dance is not any attraction but particularly for women contents of the attraction, there are dances for men but not bely dance, perhaps I am wrong, Im merely bystanders not an expert of belly dance

Elham, At different times in many cultures from Japan to England women did not appear on stage. Women's roles were done by males.

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