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UK Standard of Living beats the US!!!
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23 Jan 2008 Wed 05:20 pm |
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Quoting teaschip1: Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting teaschip1: So you could work one week, quit your job and have health insurance? Also, I'm curious what does a single employee pay on monthly basis into national insurance in UK? Is it the same for everyone or based on your salary and family size? |
Teas - you must get the word "insurance" out of your head. EVERYBODY is entitled to the same heathcare - from birth. You do not have to take ANY documents, certificates or evidence to the hospital with you and you don't have to claim anything back - there is NOTHING TO PAY.
National Insurance is a type of tax. It also covers other things like dental care and a state pension (most people have a private pension as well - you can have both).
Benefits that depend on NIC contributions
Your entitlement to the following benefits and/or the amount you can get will depend on your (or in some cases your spouse or civil partner's)
NIC contributions also cover:-
Contribution based Jobseeker's Allowance
Incapacity Benefit (if you can't work for long periods due to illness or injury)
State Pension
Widowed Parents' Allowance
Bereavement Allowance
Bereavement Payment
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTaxAndBenefits/Taxes/BeginnersGuideToTax/DG_4015904
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So who is paying this tax then? |
Ok, here it is.
People who work pay tax and national insurance. Tax pays for things like the central government, local government, and the those things that are taken for granted like refuse collections, street cleaning, police, fire service, education etc etc
National Insurance pays for health care and social security payments, pensions and child benefit. (As listed by Aenigma)
If you have not worked, or you are out of work you are still entitled to social security benefits and health care but your pension will be or could be affected if you have not paid enough insurance.
We also have the options to pay private health care, private education, private pension but we still have to pay national insurance. If you have private pensions you still get your state pension (paid for by natioanl insurance)
This national insurance is not like the health insurance you pay. Our national insurance is I think around 8% or 9% of our non-taxable income, therefore the more you earn the more you pay.
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23 Jan 2008 Wed 05:27 pm |
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Unfortunately, the idea of paying high taxes for everyone to have healthcare in the US is not one that most American people can be convinced is a good one. Every American wants better healthcare BUT very few are willing to pay for it.
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23 Jan 2008 Wed 05:47 pm |
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Quoting Elisabeth: Unfortunately, the idea of paying high taxes for everyone to have healthcare in the US is not one that most American people can be convinced is a good one. Every American wants better healthcare BUT very few are willing to pay for it. |
But your taxes are not that high? Most people here pay 22% or if you earn over £33k it is 40% plus national insurance (on our wages).
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23 Jan 2008 Wed 05:53 pm |
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If you think Bush is not dumb................
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moutUEfqUQ4How dumb is Bush?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqLvBUSJucg&feature=relatedAnd again..............
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfwRb_XKFvA&feature=relatedHu is Hu?...............
Apologies for all the Youtube links but they are funny!
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23 Jan 2008 Wed 06:00 pm |
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Quoting libralady: If you think Bush is not dumb................
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moutUEfqUQ4How dumb is Bush?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqLvBUSJucg&feature=relatedAnd again..............
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfwRb_XKFvA&feature=relatedHu is Hu?...............
Apologies for all the Youtube links but they are funny! |
youtube is banned in Turkey well..i dont need videos to believe he is a dumb
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23 Jan 2008 Wed 06:01 pm |
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Quoting libralady: Quoting Elisabeth: Unfortunately, the idea of paying high taxes for everyone to have healthcare in the US is not one that most American people can be convinced is a good one. Every American wants better healthcare BUT very few are willing to pay for it. |
But your taxes are not that high? Most people here pay 22% or if you earn over £33k it is 40% plus national insurance (on our wages). |
I know, and any raise in taxes would enrage most Americans. We like our taxes low and don't like the government medalling in our business, which explains why everything is privatized here. Americans would never tolerate those taxes.
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23 Jan 2008 Wed 06:02 pm |
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Quoting libralady: If you think Bush is not dumb................
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moutUEfqUQ4How dumb is Bush?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqLvBUSJucg&feature=relatedAnd again..............
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfwRb_XKFvA&feature=relatedHu is Hu?...............
Apologies for all the Youtube links but they are funny! |
I love the Who is Hu one...hehehehe
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23 Jan 2008 Wed 06:08 pm |
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i wonder what is the point of this thread... to determine which one is better?
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23 Jan 2008 Wed 06:10 pm |
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Quoting ciko: Quoting teaschip1: Quoting ciko: Quoting teaschip1: Quoting girleegirl: Quoting teaschip1:
Well, if you think Bush is bad...Hillary is just plain evil.  |
Please, do tell what 'evil' has Hillary perpetrated on the good people of the world. |
I would like to believe I'm a good judge in character. I have met thousands of women like Hillary Clinton in my life time. Hillary lacks integrity and I believe is a phony. She appears to be so self absorbed with a hidden agenda and not for the common good of the American people. Her past also doesn't help her cause. I realize you could say this about almost any politican, however I would give my vote to Obama before I would trust Hillary. |
i dont think she could be worse than G.W Bush.. and i dont think American Politics will change in long run.. US will keep destroying the world no matter who is in charge..maybe they will leave Iraq but i am very sure that they will create another enemy to fight..another land to make a blood bath as they have done for 50 years. Grrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!! |
You may want to choose your words more carefully, Ciko. I believe Turkey has it's own battle with the PKK. Did Turkey create this enemy?
I do believe the U.S. has every right to interfere when it has a tremendous affect on our country. Otherwise, we should mind our own business. Which brings me to the following questions. Should the U.S. be providing real time intelligence to Turkey regarding the PKK or should we mind our own business? |
1 st question: did turkey create PKK?
absolutely yes if you could search about life in 70s and 80s in east of turkey you would see that.
2 nd question: Should the U.S. be providing real time intelligence to Turkey regarding the PKK or should we mind our own business?
yes you should just mind your own business as other countries..and you urgently should get the f..k out of middle east..there is nothing else you should do..the longer you stay here the more we hate US. sad but true.
and i wonder if Somalia, Sudan, Vietnam, all south american countries ( except argentina, brasil and mexico)kampuchea.. etc...did all these countries have tremendous effect on your country?
whatever you say..all the world know what is USA dont waste your energy to explain how good you are for the world
i wonder, do you have turkish blood?..you are unable to criticise your country just like most turkish people |
You at least had one wise comment Siko...I agree we should get out of the Middle East, so that you crazy people can kill eachother and not waste our good soldiers to a lost cause.. Talk about bloodshed..look at your own history.  I don't see millions of immigrants wanting to flee to Turkey....
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23 Jan 2008 Wed 06:13 pm |
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Quoting ciko: i wonder what is the point of this thread... to determine which one is better? |
Just like many other threads on this site - pointless - but people post anyway! And as yet, no-one is getting upset as it remains lighthearted!
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23 Jan 2008 Wed 06:13 pm |
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Quoting ciko: i wonder what is the point of this thread... to determine which one is better? |
I blame AEnigma for this! Bed Englishwoman!
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