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Is the UK going mad?
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10.       oeince
582 posts
 17 Sep 2007 Mon 06:25 pm

i dont thing that is "madness"..in my opinion that can be described as "rationalism"
All we know the events between Palestine and Israel.And all we know that the emmbassies are Other countries lands.
Now let me ask, What if a terrorist attack occurs in Israel embassy? and what if the officer,protecting the embassy, is a Muslim Arabic or even a Palestenian that day?
Wont people doubt of that officer that day? Wont British Police organisation been accused by its choice? I am sure the events can turn to be a global diplomatic chrisis.
The UK has a firm political tredition. If that is decided that has been argued with Mossad..May be the demand was from Israel secret service.
Friends, World is in a transection period..And its meaningful if a country doesnt want to charge any doubts..

11.       lovebug
280 posts
 17 Sep 2007 Mon 06:27 pm

Absurd! To let someone that has chosen the profession of a police officer, to choose who they are going to "protect and serve". Very infuriating!

12.       Trudy
7887 posts
 17 Sep 2007 Mon 06:32 pm

Quoting oeince:

i dont thing that is "madness"..in my opinion that can be described as "rationalism"
All we know the events between Palestine and Israel.And all we know that the emmbassies are Other countries lands.
Now let me ask, What if a terrorist attack occurs in Israel embassy? and what if the officer,protecting the embassy, is a Muslim Arabic or even a Palestenian that day?
Wont people doubt of that officer that day? Wont British Police organisation been accused by its choice? I am sure the events can turn to be a global diplomatic chrisis.
The UK has a firm political tredition. If that is decided that has been argued with Mossad..May be the demand was from Israel secret service.
Friends, World is in a transection period..And its meaningful if a country doesnt want to charge any doubts..



The big question is: is it the country not wanting any doubts or was it an individual refusing his/her duty?

And that doubt will always be there, regardless religion. It goes for all people with strong political, ethical, religious statements. To my idea your personal views may never interfere with your job. If they do, you have chosen the wrong occupation!

13.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 17 Sep 2007 Mon 06:38 pm

Without the benefit of YouTube at present, may I just ask if this is about the YEAR OLD story of the policeman "refusing" to work outside the Israeli Embassy?

14.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 17 Sep 2007 Mon 06:41 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Without the benefit of YouTube at present, may I just ask if this is about the YEAR OLD story of the policeman "refusing" to work outside the Israeli Embassy?


Yes...but it was new news to me!! lol

15.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 17 Sep 2007 Mon 06:44 pm

In that case, please don't jump onto the gutter press "anti muslim" bandwagon.

To put this story in context.

(1) The police officer did NOT ASK to be excused from guarding the Israeli Embassy.
To be precise, he made his superiors aware of certain personal factors. His superiors then did a risk assessment and took the decision accordingly.

(2) He had already been working at the embassy for some time before he made the request, which was solely based on increasing tension and media attention at the embassy.

(3) This is not about moral objection but simply protecting one's family. This man has family in the Lebanon and Syria who were receiving televised news from outside the embassy.

16.       KeithL
1455 posts
 17 Sep 2007 Mon 06:47 pm

I hate Fox News with a passion. Always the buzzwords to appeal to narrow-minded, politically unaware Americans, who blindly vote for Bush-like candidates...
Eurabia? Nice word. They should patent it...

But, I do agree with the facts of the story. If cop doesn't want to perform his assignment, he should be suspended from duty...

17.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 17 Sep 2007 Mon 06:48 pm

Quoting KeithL:

But, I do agree with the facts of the story. If cop doesn't want to perform his assignment, he should be suspended from duty...



Please read my post Keith - he did perform his assignment.

18.       Trudy
7887 posts
 17 Sep 2007 Mon 06:50 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

In that case, please don't jump onto the gutter press "anti muslim" bandwagon.

To put this story in context.

(1) The police officer did NOT ASK to be excused from guarding the Israeli Embassy.
To be precise, he made his superiors aware of certain personal factors. His superiors then did a risk assessment and took the decision accordingly.

(2) He had already been working at the embassy for some time before he made the request, which was solely based on increasing tension and media attention at the embassy.

(3) This is not about moral objection but simply protecting one's family. This man has family in the Lebanon and Syria who were receiving televised news from outside the embassy.



This is good information, the anchorman (correct?) of the program they show on YouTube gives me the idea of a refusing officer for whom the government changed rules.

19.       KeithL
1455 posts
 17 Sep 2007 Mon 06:50 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

In that case, please don't jump onto the gutter press "anti muslim" bandwagon.

To put this story in context.

(1) The police officer did NOT ASK to be excused from guarding the Israeli Embassy.
To be precise, he made his superiors aware of certain personal factors. His superiors then did a risk assessment and took the decision accordingly.

(2) He had already been working at the embassy for some time before he made the request, which was solely based on increasing tension and media attention at the embassy.

(3) This is not about moral objection but simply protecting one's family. This man has family in the Lebanon and Syria who were receiving televised news from outside the embassy.



I cannot verify Aenigma's facts here, but if true, typical anti-muslim Fox journalism. I hate them with a passion.
If an assignment were putting an officers family at risk, what police staff wouldn't reassign the officer to another duty. Common sense to me.

Fox news is dangerous for America!!!

20.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 17 Sep 2007 Mon 06:51 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

In that case, please don't jump onto the gutter press "anti muslim" bandwagon.

To put this story in context.

(1) The police officer did NOT ASK to be excused from guarding the Israeli Embassy.
To be precise, he made his superiors aware of certain personal factors. His superiors then did a risk assessment and took the decision accordingly.

(2) He had already been working at the embassy for some time before he made the request, which was solely based on increasing tension and media attention at the embassy.

(3) This is not about moral objection but simply protecting one's family. This man has family in the Lebanon and Syria who were receiving televised news from outside the embassy.



Oh well that makes perfect sense now. Does this mean we don't have anything to argue about? DARN!! lol

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