Ý havet heard/seen cartoon or something alike about Ýsa ´SA´  Jesus made by Muslims/Arabs/Turks...is there ?!

 Just Google.

I know Arabs are sons of Sem. Do they know it themselves when telling Jews to take a hike? (Or less polite.)

 Sadly it goes on and on and on.....what amazes me is how different groups are scapegoated in different locals. 

 In the SouthWest, it´s the Mexicans who are the out group...then in New York it was the Puerto Ricans.  In France it´s the Morroccans, Algerians and Tunisians who are the out group.  American Blacks have been hated in the US, but loved in France, but subsaharan Africans are out.  In Germany and Northern Europe, it´s the Turks who are out.  It seems to be changing now into the "Muslims" and those dark folks.

On July 12th, Luis Ramirez, a 25-year-old undocumented Mexican immigrant, was beaten to death by a group of teenagers in Shenandoah, PA.
Here is a comment regarding the incident from another forum:

".... they don´t contribute to society. They increase the crime rate, they lower the wages, the cause environmental problems and they may one day cause a civil war. We need to stop the Mexicans from coming into our country and deport as many of them as possible.......We also need to try to encourage as many Mexicans and other Hispanics who are here legally to go home and to encourage the ones who have citizenship to leave and renounce their Amercian citizenship. We are committing suicide as a nation by letting them into the country. They may one day bring about the destruction of our country and that´s easily prevented by stopping them from coming into the country."

Of course this comment completely disregards the fact that many Hispanics have been here longer than so called "whites" have been.  You know all those Mexicans who were here when Mexican land was converted to US land did not die...they stayed, had famlies and are still here.  The US is their home.  It´s insane.

Tiller the killer <---< hate talk leading up to the assasination of Dr Tiller. 

Hate talk legitimizes and incites this type of activity and causes those targeted to go into defensive behaviour.

 Well, none needed to google about Rasul SAV cartoons, it was there right infront of our eyes, so when there are cartoons about Ýsa SA like that...we would have something to talk about then, wouldnt you say ?!

 mmmm, you havent answered my question still Trudy.

Beside, what do you mean about ´telling Jews to take a hike´ ? Are we talking aout Palestine here ?!

Well, i can have a cousin for sure, but i wont gave him my home..!

 No, not only Palestinians. Anti-semitism is not unknown in many Muslim groups, is it?

I do think I answered your question.

And you really belief that all those protesters in every country burning flags, threatening Westerners, blocking embassies, calling for banning products etc have seen the cartoons themselves? They are all genuine insulted themselves? Not instigated by some hotheaded imams and/or politicians?

 I think the "anti-semetic" issue regarding Arabs/Palestine is quite another issue given the happenings in the Occupied Territories now.

Calling Palestinians cancer and lice....

Israeli settlers attack Palestinians in West Bank

There is plenty of blame to go around there, but one thing it shows is how ineffective and destructive hateful speach is.

Thankfully this is a conversation and we can clarify what we mean. I think you are quite right that the immigrants in Europe absolutely do not represent the country that they come from. It is recognized that they are select groups, usually uneducated, often from traditional backgrounds. They emigrate to Europe and there they blend with the local Muslim communities, which are funded by Saudi ultra-radicals. They do not integrate with the native communities, but they isolate themselves within the Muslim circles. Often times they cannot leave the community once they join.

But they do come from Turkey/Morocco... etc, so how can you refer to them other then Turkish/Moroccon..? It does create prejudice... but the only way out of it is to honestly name the problems that these people present and separate it from unfounded stereotyping. If we do not have this honest self-critical conversation, then sad incidents like the one in Austria will not only continue, but will find misguided justification..

 You are now mixing things Trudy!

First, Forced means forced...

We dont say its either our religion or not so i would say they are depressed or something and they wanted to take it out so the made those cartoons !

Second, its not logic that you come to a country where in its constitution saying that by law it is an Ýslamic country, then you complains about its system !

Third, Holocaust is not God or something, so by all means everyone can have the right to talk about it, have opinions or what so ever

How come you have the right to think about the existence of your god and you dont have same right about something happened in the history ?!

History says, it happened, if some people says it doesnt so who would be considered like a fool ?!

Ýts not a holly thing, and if its allowed that you doubt holly things by your law, how is it not allowed you doubt anything else

Do you find that logic ?

As principle...is it ?!

Ý dont deny it, because history says it happened, from other sources than the jewish too, but at same time i have no way to understand how come denying it became a crime !

Fourth...what makes you think that i pretend to be so human and so kind... as a matter of fact... i am   lol