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Relief ship stopped by Israeli Navy
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20.       alameda
3499 posts
 31 May 2010 Mon 08:59 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

What is happening in Gaza is horrible, and human rights have seemed to have vanished there, but please don´t say that it is the "biggest and cruelest concentration camp in history" ... cruelest? My family has died in concentration camps, and believe me, you don´t want to start a competition on which form of oppression is the cruelest.  Did you ever here of an Israeli minister going on a fighting mission? Was it ever a high placed guy from Hamaz who did a suicide bombing?

 

Hmmm....ummm....how about Yitzhak Rabin.....Ariel Sharon....Moshe Dayan........as for the guy from Hamaz...he wasn´t around after the suicide bombing......and no, I don´t condone suicide bombing in any way....but I do think the Israili policies are certainly counter productive...so say the least.

 

........and to tell the truth....this situation in Gaza certainly rivals "others".....but this is not a time for competition as to who has, or had it the worst....

 

How long is this going to go on....enough already!

21.       vineyards
1954 posts
 31 May 2010 Mon 09:26 pm

Why did the parents of those toddlers onboard took them on this obviously dangerous journey? Regardless what cause they are advocating, they must have thought about the safety of their children first. They should never have trusted the Israeli government. These guys are always doing this and walk away with blood in their hands. They will walk away this time too. We may look forward to a few more Holocaust movies this year. It is guranteed that in a couple of years from now, all this will be forgotten but the sufferings of the Jewish nation will always be high on the agenda.

 

 

22.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 31 May 2010 Mon 09:50 pm

 

Quoting alameda

 

 

Hmmm....ummm....how about Yitzhak Rabin.....Ariel Sharon....Moshe Dayan........as for the guy from Hamaz...he wasn´t around after the suicide bombing......and no, I don´t condone suicide bombing in any way....but I do think the Israili policies are certainly counter productive...so say the least.

 

........and to tell the truth....this situation in Gaza certainly rivals "others".....but this is not a time for competition as to who has, or had it the worst....

 

How long is this going to go on....enough already!

 

 Ah yes, but they were only part of army offences as young soldiers. Once they grew in the ranks, once they got power, they sat more and more safely behind bigger and bigger desks. In the end, a big problem in any conflict is that the guys on top, decide what happens... "We move this group of guys to there, in the fight about 5% will die, then the remaining 95% will move here... perfect." They make decisions about human lives without respecting the value of every single life.

 

 

And what?! Children on board? Seriously? Which idiot thought THAT would be a good idea {#emotions_dlg.rant}



Edited (5/31/2010) by barba_mama

23.       vineyards
1954 posts
 31 May 2010 Mon 10:34 pm

I read in the news that no communication is possible wiith the vessels since Israeli troops are using jammers. Ever since I saw the picture of the two year old son of a ship officer, my mind has been set on him. I have a child about the same age. Without him my life wouldbe meaningless. Through empathy, I know the psychological condition of the family(s) in question. I can´t stop blaming them for what they did though. For the time being the details of the incident are still sketchy.

24.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 31 May 2010 Mon 10:39 pm

I don´t know when Israel´s cruelty will end. I don´t know how many more people have to die to it finish. But Israel´s name was already written to the black pages of the history. I respect the brave and innocent people who are killed by Israeli soldiers on that ship. They showed us what courage means. They defended themselves with their fists against machine guns. And they became martyrs for us. This is what courage means. I learned one of the ships´ name is Rachel Corrie. It is also so meaningful.



Edited (5/31/2010) by gokuyum

25.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 01 Jun 2010 Tue 12:42 am

What? Children on board? I can´t even imagine wanting to take my child on a ship going anywhere near places with war going on!

 

I know there was a journalist of Polish origin on one of the ships.

 

I saw on the news that Israel claims to have been provoked and that the ships were smuggling guns to Palestinians. Right, as if anyone is going to believe them. Had there been weapons, why weren´t they used during the Israeli attack?

 

I wonder what measures the Arab League will decide on taking tomorrow. And what the EU and USA are going to do.

26.       ally81
461 posts
 01 Jun 2010 Tue 01:58 am

 

Quoting gokuyum

I don´t know when Israel´s cruelty will end. I don´t know how many more people have to die to it finish. But Israel´s name was already written to the black pages of the history. I respect the brave and innocent people who are killed by Israeli soldiers on that ship. They showed us what courage means. They defended themselves with their fists against machine guns. And they became martyrs for us. This is what courage means. I learned one of the ships´ name is Rachel Corrie. It is also so meaningful.

 

Yes, the MV Rachel Corrie, it is the Irish ship, it sure is a very meaningful name... I think Israel will get away with this as it always does. But still, I am waiting to see what the reactions from the likes of the EU and US will be.....  My thoughts and prayers are with everyone involved

27.       ally81
461 posts
 01 Jun 2010 Tue 02:05 am

 

Quoting vineyards

Why did the parents of those toddlers onboard took them on this obviously dangerous journey? Regardless what cause they are advocating, they must have thought about the safety of their children first. They should never have trusted the Israeli government. These guys are always doing this and walk away with blood in their hands. They will walk away this time too. We may look forward to a few more Holocaust movies this year. It is guranteed that in a couple of years from now, all this will be forgotten but the sufferings of the Jewish nation will always be high on the agenda.

 

 

 

I cannot comprehend why anyone would take their child with them on such a dangerous mission!  Why would anyone put their own child in danger like this?  It boggles the mind!

28.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 01 Jun 2010 Tue 02:06 am

My guess is that Ehud Barak wil get this year´s NOBEL PEACE PRIZE...

29.       alameda
3499 posts
 01 Jun 2010 Tue 03:36 am

 

Quoting AlphaF

My guess is that Ehud Barak wil get this year´s NOBEL PEACE PRIZE...

 

You may be right........stranger things have happened.......

 

Here is an interesting commentary by Juan Cole...the comments are also worth reading....and maybe contributing to.

 

 

30.       Paramedic
24 posts
 01 Jun 2010 Tue 05:39 am

This has always been a genocide and shame on the world for watching this for years

and never stepping up to the plate and stopping Israel.

Every product made in Israel should be boycotted and not touched

bargained for or used. All fundings to Israel should be stopped both

deportation and importation.

Let them become a 3rd class country and lose all economical power.

Let the the world make them stand on trial for this and hurt them

in the pocket book. I really hope USA stops sending funding and weapons

which they have continually done.

 

Turkey should stop all ships going to TEL AVIV  "><"

 

The death toll from the Israeli navy´s takeover of a Gaza

aid convoy has risen to 20 while Israel carefully censors reports

on the casualties from the attack.

Gaza Freedom Flotilla came under fire early on Monday

by Israeli navy forces in international waters more than

150km (90 miles) off the coast of Gaza.

The six-ship aid fleet was soon stormed by commandos

descending from helicopters.

At least 20 people were killed in the takeover of the Gaza aid

convoy, al-Aqsa TV channel reported, saying that more than 50

people, including leader of the Palestinian Islamic Movement Sheikh

Raed Salah, were wounded in the attack.



Edited (6/1/2010) by Paramedic
Edited (6/1/2010) by Paramedic

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