Quoting AlphaF:

The problem with democracy is that it can prevail between different interest groups, only if any one of the groups can get what they want - with no extensive harm to other groups.

There can be no democracy, if one group has to kill another - to reach what it wants.

Quoting oguzkaan_:

Quoting MrX67: Quoting catwoman: Quoting MrX67: yea everybody says that,but not easy to change after 40's tatlım Ok... Let's say that I agree with you about the insult thing... but can you agree that the punishment for that should NEVER be prison? And that the government shouldn't be the one to be dealing with such issues? Please agree with me! i believe power of a real democracy on everything,but thats never give any right to insult to high values or vips of a country,so we all have to use our freedoms in objective limits,thats all what i know with my broken record way

Quoting ciko:

i wonder what are 'high values' ..and high according to what? who can define 'high' ? Ataturk may be a high value for you but for me he is not..so why would i avoid to criticise what he did?

Quoting MrX67:

Quoting ciko:

Quoting MrX67:

Quoting ciko: Quoting MrX67: Quoting ciko: i wonder what are 'high values' ..and high according to what? who can define 'high' ? Ataturk may be a high value for you but for me he is not..so why would i avoid to criticise what he did? you can critise sure,but we talking about insult i think??? yes and also i think i can insult him ..because i have enough reasons to insult but ...even on this site i am afraid to say anything bad about him..

Quoting ciko:

Quoting MrX67: Quoting ciko: Quoting MrX67: Quoting ciko: i wonder what are 'high values' ..and high according to what? who can define 'high' ? Ataturk may be a high value for you but for me he is not..so why would i avoid to criticise what he did? you can critise sure,but we talking about insult i think??? yes and also i think i can insult him ..because i have enough reasons to insult but ...even on this site i am afraid to say anything bad about him.. would you like someone insult you to as his/her freedom???

Quoting MrX67:

Quoting ciko: Quoting MrX67: Quoting ciko: Quoting MrX67: Quoting ciko: i wonder what are 'high values' ..and high according to what? who can define 'high' ? Ataturk may be a high value for you but for me he is not..so why would i avoid to criticise what he did? you can critise sure,but we talking about insult i think??? yes and also i think i can insult him ..because i have enough reasons to insult but ...even on this site i am afraid to say anything bad about him.. would you like someone insult you to as his/her freedom??? i would not care at all i know myself and i know i am a GREAT person

Quoting ciko:

Quoting MrX67: Quoting ciko: Quoting MrX67: Quoting ciko: Quoting MrX67: Quoting ciko: i wonder what are 'high values' ..and high according to what? who can define 'high' ? Ataturk may be a high value for you but for me he is not..so why would i avoid to criticise what he did? you can critise sure,but we talking about insult i think??? yes and also i think i can insult him ..because i have enough reasons to insult but ...even on this site i am afraid to say anything bad about him.. would you like someone insult you to as his/her freedom??? i would not care at all i know myself and i know i am a GREAT person hmm then we both understand different things on a same word,really congrats for ur freedom idea