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Use of the -sene tense
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29 Aug 2006 Tue 10:49 pm |
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Does the -sene imperative tense simply form a more polite form of the normal verbal imperative or is there more to it than just that.
For example, what is the difference between these two:
Bugün senden yürüme git
Bugün senden yürüme gitsene
Today you go for a walk
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29 Aug 2006 Tue 11:13 pm |
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Quote: Does the -sene imperative tense simply form a more polite form of the normal verbal imperative or is there more to it than just that.
For example, what is the difference between these two:
Bugün senden yürüme git
Bugün senden yürüme gitsene
Today you go for a walk
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First, the correct translations must be:
Bugün (sen) yürüyüşe git.
Bugün (sen) yürüyüşe gitsene.
The sense in the second sentence is between request and order (adding -e /-a to the verbal imperative conveys the sense of something between strong request and order), while it is an absolute order in the first sentence.
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30 Aug 2006 Wed 12:03 am |
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Quoting qdemir: First, the correct translations must be:
Bugün (sen) yürüyüşe git.
Bugün (sen) yürüyüşe gitsene. |
Can you explain how yürüyüşe is formed?
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30 Aug 2006 Wed 12:13 am |
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"yürüyüş" is the noun stem and as you know -e is the case suffix.
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30 Aug 2006 Wed 12:17 am |
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Quoting qdemir: "yürüyüş" is the noun stem and as you know -e is the case suffix. |
Why can't the verbal noun "yürüme" not be used here instead of "yürüyüs"?
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30 Aug 2006 Wed 12:24 am |
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Quote: Why can't the verbal noun "yürüme" not be used here instead of "yürüyüs"? |
Sometimes you ask hard questions, bod 
"Yürüyüş" means going out for a walk in that sentence.
If it had meant walk we would have used the verbal noun "yürüme" as you have said above.
Yürümeye başla. (start walking)
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30 Aug 2006 Wed 12:43 am |
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Quoting qdemir: Sometimes you ask hard questions, bod |
I will take that as an immense compliment 
Hopefully this is an easier question
Is yürüyüş formed like this:
yürü-y-üş
verb stem + buffer consonant + -üş suffix???
If so, what is the -üş suffix?
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30 Aug 2006 Wed 12:49 am |
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-ış, -iş, -uş, -üş
This is a suffix that builds permanent nouns out of verbs. It doesn't apply to every verb.
examples:
gitmek (to go) > gidiş (deperature)
bakmak (to look) > bakış (glance)
yürümek (to walk) > yürüyüş ('a walk' as in 'take a walk')
gülmek (to smile) > gülüş (a smile, the smile)
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30 Aug 2006 Wed 12:57 am |
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Quote: Hopefully this is an easier question
Is yürüyüş formed like this:
yürü-y-üş
verb stem + buffer consonant + -üş suffix???
If so, what is the -üş suffix? |
verb stem + buffer consonant + -üş suffix??? = right
-iş is a suffix which is used to produce nouns from verb roots or stems: yürü-y-üş (you know the wovel harmony here).
gülmek >gül-üş
okumak >oku-y-uş
giyinmek > giyin-iş
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30 Aug 2006 Wed 01:08 am |
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Some examples:
gidişin yaktı beni
gülüşÃ¼n kor gibi aklımda
o susuşun
bakıp bakıp duruşun...
kuşların ötüşÃ¼
yağmurun yağışı
güneşin batışı
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