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Elections
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08 Nov 2006 Wed 04:21 am |
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I think I'm breaking the politics rule, but since Iraq has come up as an issue in so many forums, as well as some "misperceptions" about Americans- it is important to note that the American people are speaking out.
In a midterm election (not a presidential election)- the Democrats have turned out in larger numbers than over a decade. Interestingly their number one reason for voting in these local congressional elections- discontent with our current administration's policies in Iraq.
I'm watching the numbers live as I write.
There is hope...
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08 Nov 2006 Wed 07:41 am |
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Christine, you rebel.....but I'm gonna join in the rebellion!!! 
Word has just come in here in California and the Democrats have won control of the House of Representatives. This means we will have our first female Speaker of the House!!!!
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08 Nov 2006 Wed 10:51 am |
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Quoting christine_usa: it is important to note that the American people are speaking out.
There is hope... |
Yes! I am watching too Christine! 
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08 Nov 2006 Wed 11:20 am |
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YEAH!!! HURRAY!!!
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08 Nov 2006 Wed 12:44 pm |
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I stayed up as late as I could to watch! Thank God is all I could say this morning when I looked at the news.
The Democrats overwhelmingly won the control of the House of Representatives, and yes- a woman will be the Speaker for the first time in US history!!!!!
We are waiting for two races- to see if the Democrats ALSO win control of the Senate.
Interestingly- there may be a need for a "recount" , and there are hints of fraud.... How does this always happen, especially when the Democrats are ahead?
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08 Nov 2006 Wed 12:53 pm |
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Quoting christine_usa: Interestingly- there may be a need for a "recount" , and there are hints of fraud.... How does this always happen, especially when the Democrats are ahead? |
This is so true Christine, and so worrying. I have my hopes set on Hilary now  !
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08 Nov 2006 Wed 01:26 pm |
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Me too Anenigma! Hilary Clinton or Barak Obama for 2008. Heck, there was a rumor Oprah Winfrey was going to run. At this point, we'll take almost anyone- things really can't get worse- can they?
Hilary won her NY seat with over 60% of the vote. Yeah!
I have to say I can't stand electronic voting. You don't even get a printout of your vote. Who controls the "transfer" of the data? I don't want to fall into my conspiracy theory thinking- but having a central computer "count" opens huge doors for problems- there is no way to actually "verify" outside of the computer controller.
I'll be sneaking peeks at the last 2 senate races all day today at work 
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08 Nov 2006 Wed 01:56 pm |
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Quoting christine_usa: Me too Anenigma! Hilary Clinton or Barak Obama for 2008. Heck, there was a rumor Oprah Winfrey was going to run. At this point, we'll take almost anyone- things really can't get worse- can they?
Hilary won her NY seat with over 60% of the vote. Yeah!
I have to say I can't stand electronic voting. You don't even get a printout of your vote. Who controls the "transfer" of the data? I don't want to fall into my conspiracy theory thinking- but having a central computer "count" opens huge doors for problems- there is no way to actually "verify" outside of the computer controller.
I'll be sneaking peeks at the last 2 senate races all day today at work
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Joey _I am not really interested in internal American politics but I seem to recall things were indeed much worse when the democrats were in power in the sixties and their disastrous policy in Vietnam.
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08 Nov 2006 Wed 01:57 pm |
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Like you say, I don't care who it is as long as the US get a president who starts representing what the majority of the US people think and want.
Hmmm the electronic voting system DOES sound very very worrying....
Even MORE worrying...where is Teaschip!!!? I really can't be bothered to come here if she won't argue with me!
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08 Nov 2006 Wed 02:09 pm |
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Quoting Joey: Joey _I am not really interested in internal American politics but I seem to recall things were indeed much worse when the democrats were in power in the sixties and their disastrous policy in Vietnam. |
Haha! Well if you want to discuss party politics, then I would say Richard Nixon and Hoover were hardly a glowing example of Republican presidents!
And what about JFK? Surely a great example of a wonderful Democratic President? 
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08 Nov 2006 Wed 02:21 pm |
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Quoting aenigma x: Quoting Joey: Joey _I am not really interested in internal American politics but I seem to recall things were indeed much worse when the democrats were in power in the sixties and their disastrous policy in Vietnam. |
Haha! Well if you want to discuss party politics, then I would say Richard Nixon and Hoover were hardly a glowing example of Republican presidents!
And what about JFK? Surely a great example of a wonderful Democratic President?
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JFK actually sent thousands of "advisors" to Vietnam and LBJ accelerated it.Nixons for all his faults took America out.
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08 Nov 2006 Wed 02:36 pm |
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Quoting Joey: JFK actually sent thousands of "advisors" to Vietnam and LBJ accelerated it.Nixons for all his faults took America out. |
True! Lets discuss this further over a whisky !
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08 Nov 2006 Wed 02:51 pm |
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Quoting aenigma x: Quoting Joey: JFK actually sent thousands of "advisors" to Vietnam and LBJ accelerated it.Nixons for all his faults took America out. |
True! Lets discuss this further over a whisky ! |
Okay aenigma Like I said I don't worry Democrat or Republican but some people seem to have short memories or are too young to remember
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08 Nov 2006 Wed 04:46 pm |
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Quoting Joey: Quoting aenigma x: Quoting Joey: JFK actually sent thousands of "advisors" to Vietnam and LBJ accelerated it.Nixons for all his faults took America out. |
True! Lets discuss this further over a whisky ! |
Okay aenigma Like I said I don't worry Democrat or Republican but some people seem to have short memories or are too young to remember |
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08 Nov 2006 Wed 05:32 pm |
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Quoting Capoeira: Maybe you don't worry 'cause you're siting in some bar across the ocean. But, when you watch military spending going up and financial support to universitiy and public education going down or the increase in building prisons and not schools then you worry! |
I think you misunderstand Capoeira - we certainly do worry, but we dont have the vote! We can only sit and watch who will be the next person to drag us into a war we dont agree with, for fabricated reasons! We have the opposite problem by the way - zero capacity in prisons and not enough money given to the military.... 
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08 Nov 2006 Wed 05:37 pm |
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Quoting aenigma x: Quoting Capoeira: Maybe you don't worry 'cause you're siting in some bar across the ocean. But, when you watch military spending going up and financial support to universitiy and public education going down or the increase in building prisons and not schools then you worry! |
I think you misunderstand Capoeira - we certainly do worry, but we dont have the vote! We can only sit and watch who will be the next person to drag us into a war we dont agree with, for fabricated reasons! We have the opposite problem by the way - zero capacity in prisons and not enough money given to the military.... |
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08 Nov 2006 Wed 05:38 pm |
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ı thınk ıts same on all the world...even though we vote we also sıt and whaıt who wıll benefıt from the status they have next? who wıll rob the banks? who wıll lie and cheat us?
hehehe ıts same all over the world...at least they dont draw us ınto a war ...thx god
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08 Nov 2006 Wed 08:37 pm |
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As many of us have been guilty of “Bush Bashing†lately on this site, I wanted to congratulate the USA on their historic action today. You have restored my faith in democracy
American people, even in such staunch republican states such as Pennsylvania, have taken action today – the majority doing so because they disagree with the Iraq "War". US press are already saying that Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is due to resign.
I hope any anti-American members of this site remember Bush does not necessarily represent the views of the US people. My only negative comment about today is…. I wish they had been so committed during the Presidential election of 2004 and pushed the percentage to over 49% against him THEN.
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08 Nov 2006 Wed 10:15 pm |
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Short and sweet - whoever is in power has a bloody hell of lot of sorting out to do and I will join you over a wiskey too!! In my life and the part of it that can remember or rather was remotely interested in American Presidents, I just remember there has always been plenty of scandal 
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09 Nov 2006 Thu 02:20 am |
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Still supporting Bush eh Teaschip?....even as "Rome burns around him"?.....
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09 Nov 2006 Thu 02:54 am |
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Quoting aenigma x:
Still supporting Bush eh Teaschip?....even as "Rome burns around him"?..... |
See here is the thing, it has nothing to do about Bush for me personally. I don't believe in abortion or gay marriages etcc. Democrates won't do anything about terrorism so, it's more than just Bush. The list goes on, but the more personal crap I post here the more I get attacked. So, with that being said I will keep the rest to myself. Just for now. hehehehe
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09 Nov 2006 Thu 08:13 am |
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Its all a mess. Anyone who thinks Bush has made America safer in the last few years needs to get out more...
Anyone who thinks that these election results will get us out of this mess is equally dillusional.
Rumsfeld is out...this is good. But now what?
No overwhelming majority on either side of the house. So whats going to get done? Nothing...
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09 Nov 2006 Thu 11:04 am |
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Quoting teaschip:
See here is the thing, it has nothing to do about Bush for me personally. I don't believe in abortion or gay marriages etcc. Democrates won't do anything about terrorism so, it's more than just Bush. The list goes on, but the more personal crap I post here the more I get attacked. So, with that being said I will keep the rest to myself. Just for now. hehehehe |
I agree with u teaschip..but i don't think views on abortion or gay marriages etc should be included in politics..just because i don't like it doesn't mean the government should encroach on other people's rights to do what they want...just my opinion/
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09 Nov 2006 Thu 11:15 am |
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Quoting teaschip: Democrates won't do anything about terrorism so, it's more than just Bush. |
Erm...Teaschip...what exactly has Bush done about Terrorism? Other than increase the threat of it? 
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09 Nov 2006 Thu 11:19 am |
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Quoting teaschip: I don't believe in abortion or gay marriages etcc. So, with that being said I will keep the rest to myself. Just for now. hehehehe |
Hmmm interesting ! You dont believe in abortion or gay marriages? OK OK, I don't think you need to say anymore, I can guess the rest !
Let me test my theory ! What is your view on the gun laws in the US?
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09 Nov 2006 Thu 03:17 pm |
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Quoting KeithL:
Anyone who thinks that these election results will get us out of this mess is equally dillusional.
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YOU PESSIMIST!!!
But at least you waited 24hrs. before you decided to rain on my parade!
Hey, what ever happened to hope? Imagine where our country would be if somebody hadn't had a vision or a dream of something better and the will to pursue it. Just think back to the Brown v Board of Education, Roe v Wade, the Emancipation Proclamation, and the 13th Constitutional Amendment. All these are evidence that change is possible.
Ok...I'll get off my podium now!
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10 Nov 2006 Fri 12:00 am |
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Agreed! Now onward to discussing all things positive about Turkey.
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