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EUROPEAN UNİON AND TURKEY- A Friendly Voting..:)
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04 Dec 2006 Mon 04:44 pm |
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Quoting sea-sun-air: HELLO ALL OF MY FRİENDS..
I WANT TO START A SMALL VOTİNG..iTS A FRİENDLY VOTİNG AND I HOPE MAYBE IT CAN BE A SAMPLİNG TO REACH TO THE ALL OF SPACE..
VOTE İT PLEASE;
WHAT DO U THİNG ABOUT EU MEMBERANCE OF TURKEY..?
1-) YES IT MUST BE ( TELL THE REASON )
2-) TENTATİVE
3-) NO I DONT WANT ( TELL THE REASON )
THANX FOR NOW FOR ALL OF YOUR ANSWERS... |
i think turkey is good enough for joining to europen union but there is one big reason for not to accept it its a muslum country, at the moment the last subject was about it opining cyprus's airpots and seaports.
i would love joining to europen union because it will change all standarts of our life, our life standarts will be 5 times better than now!
i hope europe is cordial about making turkey a member of the uinon!
if you think of bulgaria, how has it become a member of it? it was worse than turkey on economical condation.. it wasnt better than turkey on any subjet but its in europe now!
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04 Dec 2006 Mon 04:58 pm |
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Quote:
i think turkey is good enough for joining to europen union but there is one big reason for not to accept it its a muslum country, at the moment the last subject was about it opining cyprus's airpots and seaports.
i would love joining to europen union because it will change all standarts of our life, our life standarts will be 5 times better than now!
i hope europe is cordial about making turkey a member of the uinon!
if you think of bulgaria, how has it become a member of it? it was worse than turkey on economical condation.. it wasnt better than turkey on any subjet but its in europe now! |
let`s not cling on cliches...
to say that a reason Turkey is not accepted because it is a muslim country is a false idea; after all EU is not a religious club and religion is not a cryteria!
and..regarding the US: US has no advantage in Turkey`s EU membership. Turkey is a NATO member and the US would not be so happy that one of its strategic partners join another alliance especially when this alliance (EU) has in plan to develop a security and defence policy to compete with the US security and defence policy within NATO!
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04 Dec 2006 Mon 04:58 pm |
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that is quite true about raising standards..but what about the fact that the turkish govt would not have complete control over things within turkey,,the eu can override things..there is a kind of trade off if u like..and if turkey grows at a faster economic rate then surely the eu would slow this down as their economy is slightly different..for example england's econom is very different to other european countries..if they were to accept the single currency i believe it would have devastating effects either on our economy or the rest of the european countries...
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04 Dec 2006 Mon 05:03 pm |
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Quote: Quoting juliacernat:
i think turkey is good enough for joining to europen union but there is one big reason for not to accept it its a muslum country, at the moment the last subject was about it opining cyprus's airpots and seaports.
i would love joining to europen union because it will change all standarts of our life, our life standarts will be 5 times better than now!
i hope europe is cordial about making turkey a member of the uinon!
if you think of bulgaria, how has it become a member of it? it was worse than turkey on economical condation.. it wasnt better than turkey on any subjet but its in europe now! |
let`s not cling on cliches...
to say that a reason Turkey is not accepted because it is a muslim country is a false idea; after all EU is not a religious club and religion is not a cryteria!
and..regarding the US: US has no advantage in Turkey`s EU membership. Turkey is a NATO member and the US would not be so happy that one of its strategic partners join another alliance especially when this alliance (EU) has in plan to develop a security and defence policy to compete with the US security and defence policy within NATO! |
well the eu is actually viewed as a christian club..in regards ti the us having cintrol..the majority of other eu members did not agree wth the iraq conflicts..but england/britain sided with america over the eu..so julia is right..
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04 Dec 2006 Mon 05:12 pm |
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Quoting juliacernat:
and..regarding the US: US has no advantage in Turkey`s EU membership. Turkey is a NATO member and the US would not be so happy that one of its strategic partners join another alliance especially when this alliance (EU) has in plan to develop a security and defence policy to compete with the US security and defence policy within NATO! |
I am sorry but this is factually incorrect. The US are completely supporting Turkey in its bid to join the EU for the very reason that they ARE a NATO country and that they are Atlanticists. It will give the US a stronger position in the EU than they currently have with countries like France remaining independent.
Its TRUE!
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04 Dec 2006 Mon 05:38 pm |
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Quoting aenigma x: Quoting juliacernat:
and..regarding the US: US has no advantage in Turkey`s EU membership. Turkey is a NATO member and the US would not be so happy that one of its strategic partners join another alliance especially when this alliance (EU) has in plan to develop a security and defence policy to compete with the US security and defence policy within NATO! |
I am sorry but this is factually incorrect. The US are completely supporting Turkey in its bid to join the EU for the very reason that they ARE a NATO country and that they are Atlanticists. It will give the US a stronger position in the EU than they currently have with countries like France remaining independent.
Its TRUE! |
once they are a EU Member and if the EU develops its Security and Defence Policy, the resources of the EU State Members will concentrate on the missions lead by EU. The European Security and Defence Policy is a competition for NATO and surely this is not the reason US supports the Turkey`s EU membership!
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04 Dec 2006 Mon 06:13 pm |
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If this looks familiar, its because I posted this last summer.
I want Turkey to join the EU but not at a cost of losing its Turkish identity and secularism.
5 years ago, joining the EU meant something. But now, look at the impoverished nations that have little to offer that have been granted entrance before Turkey. It disgusts me.
The Turkish economy is growing at over 7% without being in the EU. Turkey is not a begger that needs to get on its knees to join the EU.
Key items that are not negotiable for entry:
Secularism, Cyprus, PKK, Armenia and internal military operations.
As long as these items are not on the table, I welcome it.
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04 Dec 2006 Mon 08:16 pm |
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Quote: Quoting KeithL: If this looks familiar, its because I posted this last summer.
I want Turkey to join the EU but not at a cost of losing its Turkish identity and secularism.
5 years ago, joining the EU meant something. But now, look at the impoverished nations that have little to offer that have been granted entrance before Turkey. It disgusts me.
The Turkish economy is growing at over 7% without being in the EU. Turkey is not a begger that needs to get on its knees to join the EU.
Key items that are not negotiable for entry:
Secularism, Cyprus, PKK, Armenia and internal military operations.
As long as these items are not on the table, I welcome it.
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i think turkey is good enough for joining to europen union but there is one big reason for not to accept it its a muslum country, at the moment the last subject was about it opining cyprus's airpots and seaports.
i would love joining to europen union because it will change all standarts of our life, our life standarts will be 5 times better than now!
i hope europe is cordial about making turkey a member of the uinon!
if you think of bulgaria, how has it become a member of it? it was worse than turkey on economical condation.. it wasnt better than turkey on any subjet but its in europe now! |
i agree with both of you...
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04 Dec 2006 Mon 09:02 pm |
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Quoting KeithL: If this looks familiar, its because I posted this last summer.
I want Turkey to join the EU but not at a cost of losing its Turkish identity and secularism.
5 years ago, joining the EU meant something. But now, look at the impoverished nations that have little to offer that have been granted entrance before Turkey. It disgusts me.
The Turkish economy is growing at over 7% without being in the EU. Turkey is not a begger that needs to get on its knees to join the EU.
Key items that are not negotiable for entry:
Secularism, Cyprus, PKK, Armenia and internal military operations.
As long as these items are not on the table, I welcome it.
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Joining the EU has nothing to do with loosing the national identity. The "EU standards" do not clash with any national specificity; moreover, there are enormous resources/funds that can be accessed by the member states and by the accessing countries for programs protecting and promoting diversity. EU is open to diversity and welcomes and encourages it.
regarding the other stament, as I underlined in the previous posts, the cryteria for becoming a member are both economic and political and the two must be simultaniously met. Therefore, it is not enough to have a fast developing economy- for this Turkey received a good report; political chapters must be closed, too. These are the rules, they are very clearly set and everybody wanting to join must abide them.
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04 Dec 2006 Mon 09:17 pm |
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I disagree with you on this juliacernat.
If Turkey were in the EU currently, it would not be able to deal with such issues as the PKK, Cyprus, secularism, and Kurdish nationalism the way it can being independent. It would be forced to conform to EU standards that quite frankly will not work in all of these circumstances and actually would jeopardize Turkey's long term position in the world rather than elevating it.
There is really only one question that needs to be asked.
Would Ataturk accept the EU's current requirements being placed upon Turkey in order to join the EU? Of course he wouldn't.
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04 Dec 2006 Mon 09:25 pm |
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i believe each union sort of trade,so sides of any union has to give from itself for get somethings from other side.But when one side wants more and more,thats turns an unjustical trade.we Turkish people so disguisting about when hear somethings about EU lately,coz our politicans using this matter as a political material while Eu countries doesn't like to see Turkey in this union.sure our country has some economical,social and democratical problems,but i believe that we can solve all this problems ourself without support of any union,we Turkish people used to live with national proud,and we never want to lost this proud for a few more Euro...
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