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görüşürüz - is this geniş zaman or what?
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25 Dec 2006 Mon 10:44 am |
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hmmm i'm a bit confused, guys. please help!!
"görüşÃ¼rüz" - what tense is it? ı used to think it's geniş zaman but... if so why forms like "dönürüz" (dönmek) or "yüzürüz" (yüzmek) are wrong and "döneriz" and "yüzeriz" should go instead?
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25 Dec 2006 Mon 11:16 am |
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But it is Geniş Zaman.
Geniş zaman can take 3 shaps with verbs.
eylem + r ,Ir,Ar +kişi eki
İt take the 'r' when it comes after a vowel.
Take the 'Ar' with others,but there are some vervs that take the 'Ir' suffix.
They are not many verbs,but görüşmek is one of them.
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25 Dec 2006 Mon 11:23 am |
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ahaaa? really? that sounds nice and logical then ..if only to get that list of verbs... 
thanx canli
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25 Dec 2006 Mon 11:31 am |
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Bir şey değil.
İ can help you with some,but its not all.
Verbs that take 'Ir'
Almak
Bilmek
Bulmak
Durmak
Gelmek
Görmek
Kalmak
Konuşmak
Olmak
Ölmek
Oturmak
Sanmak
Ulaşmak
Varmak
Vermek
Vurmak
Note that Görüşmek,related to Görmek,so it would be easy to memorize it.
Anyone who know more verbs,would kindly add them ?
Would be much appreciated .Thank you
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25 Dec 2006 Mon 11:33 am |
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thank you so much!! 
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25 Dec 2006 Mon 12:12 pm |
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Quoting CANLI: But it is Geniş Zaman.
Geniş zaman can take 3 shaps with verbs.
eylem + r ,Ir,Ar +kişi eki
İt take the 'r' when it comes after a vowel.
Take the 'Ar' with others,but there are some vervs that take the 'Ir' suffix.
They are not many verbs,but görüşmek is one of them. |
Sometimes we Turks do this mistake.
durur is true one, but sometimes one say: "durar"
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25 Dec 2006 Mon 12:41 pm |
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Aorist tense suffix (-(i)r -er) has some exceptions. Here are some tips:
- after a wowel it's always -r. No exceptions:
de-r, ye-r, iste-r, dile-r, bile-r, ıskala-r, etc.
- if the verb has more than one syllable and doesn't end with a vowel, it's always -ir. No exceptions:
getir-ir, görüş-ür, beklet-ir, becer-ir, konuş-ur, etc.
- if the verb has one syllable, it's mostly -er with some exceptions
bil-ir, bul-ur, etc. CANLI has already given a better list.
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25 Dec 2006 Mon 01:57 pm |
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Quoting CANLI: Verbs that take 'Ir'
Almak
Bilmek
Bulmak
Durmak
Gelmek
Görmek
Kalmak
Konuşmak
Olmak
Ölmek
Oturmak
Sanmak
Ulaşmak
Varmak
Vermek
Vurmak
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I only have learned about the 13 exceptions!? 
Konuşmak, Oturmak and Ulaşmak are not in my grammar book. Moreover, in my book they use the verb konuşmak as an example of a verb with more than 2 syllables that gets the -ir ending..
Where did you find those 3 other verbs then?
You might want to check this too. After all, those verbs are exceptions on the single-syllable-rule, right? So I think there can't be any 2-or-more syllable-verbs in that list..
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25 Dec 2006 Mon 04:39 pm |
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Elisa,
İ didn't know about the 1 syllable rule,i just gave her a list for verbs that i know it takes the suffix İr thats all.
But ofcourse this rule would make things more easier.
And btw,thx for the link,i will check it .
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25 Dec 2006 Mon 04:40 pm |
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It's also -ir for some one-syllable verbs (2 actually) which are derived from another verb. They are not supposed to be exceptions. That's why they are not included in the list.
ye-mek ye-r
ye-n-mek ye-n-ir
de-mek de-r
de-n-mek de-n-ir
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