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Global Warming - Make a statement today :)
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01 Feb 2007 Thu 10:39 pm |
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Quoting SuiGeneris: Quoting KeithL: Turkey has zero nuclear power generation. Its all a combination of fossil fuel (coal and natural gas) and hydro. |
as you are qualified by the energy issue KeithL... and you want to be minister of Energy of Turkey-though you have to be Turkish citizen for that
do you think if they use hydro potential more efficient, does it really need a nuclear plant still? |
Turkish citizenship will be the last thing that hinders me from working with the Energy Department.
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01 Feb 2007 Thu 10:41 pm |
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Quoting KeithL:
Turkish citizenship will be the last thing that hinders me from working with the Energy Department. |
Way to go Keith 
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01 Feb 2007 Thu 10:41 pm |
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What really bugs me (and perhaps this is the wrong thread) is the number of people that complain about wind turbines. The most easily captured source of green energy we have. There is a small town near me that has two wind Turbines, enough to power nearly the whole town. I know of industrial estates, one in Lowestoft for the English folk, that powers the estate. We have further wind turbines of the north norfolk coast and then there are others around the country. What is so difficult with wind turbines.
It is all a matter of education and that is down to governments, and our government is bad at that. To little to late.
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01 Feb 2007 Thu 10:42 pm |
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Quote: Quoting aenigma x:
I'll buy that. Your not actually buying "green energy". You are donating for R/D for green energy. Which is admirable. |
No, read the link . I am BUYING non-fossil fuelled energy |
I already hate myself for disagreeing with you....but everyone in your area gets the same electricty from the same source. Otherwise, they would need two sets of ditribution lines. One for traditional fossil fuels, and another for clean energy. All the power generated enters the grid the same way and its simply distributed as needed.
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01 Feb 2007 Thu 10:43 pm |
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Quoting KeithL: Quoting SuiGeneris: Quoting KeithL: Turkey has zero nuclear power generation. Its all a combination of fossil fuel (coal and natural gas) and hydro. |
as you are qualified by the energy issue KeithL... and you want to be minister of Energy of Turkey-though you have to be Turkish citizen for that
do you think if they use hydro potential more efficient, does it really need a nuclear plant still? |
Turkish citizenship will be the last thing that hinders me from working with the Energy Department. |
But answer my question; as i read from articles we are not using the things we have for producing energy-hydro potential i am talking about.
Actually, its is understandable for goverments to choose fossil fuel using plants as they are cheaper...
and planting nuclear plant is too risky we all remember the accident chernobil... and the place they have wouldnt be avaliable for alternative energy sources... it has many relations...
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01 Feb 2007 Thu 10:43 pm |
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Quote: Quoting KeithL: Quoting aenigma x:
I'll buy that. Your not actually buying "green energy". You are donating for R/D for green energy. Which is admirable. |
No, read the link . I am BUYING non-fossil fuelled energy |
I already hate myself for disagreeing with you....but everyone in your area gets the same electricty from the same source. Otherwise, they would need two sets of ditribution lines. One for traditional fossil fuels, and another for clean energy. All the power generated enters the grid the same way and its simply distributed as needed. |
Yes sorry Keith - I posted again afterwards explaining that for every unit I use, they buy a renewable unit. Its kind of like bribing the electricity companies to be green hahah! Whatever 
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01 Feb 2007 Thu 10:45 pm |
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Quoting SuiGeneris: Actually, its is understandable for goverments to choose fossil fuel using plants as they are cheaper...
and planting nuclear plant is too risky we all remember the accident chernobil... and the place they have wouldnt be avaliable for alternative energy sources... it has many relations... |
I think nuclear plants are actually very safe (the waste is DEFINITELY another matter  ). Chernobil was due to human error and poor management as far as I am aware. Keith will know 
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01 Feb 2007 Thu 10:49 pm |
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Quoting libralady: What really bugs me (and perhaps this is the wrong thread) is the number of people that complain about wind turbines. The most easily captured source of green energy we have. There is a small town near me that has two wind Turbines, enough to power nearly the whole town. I know of industrial estates, one in Lowestoft for the English folk, that powers the estate. We have further wind turbines of the north norfolk coast and then there are others around the country. What is so difficult with wind turbines.
It is all a matter of education and that is down to governments, and our government is bad at that. To little to late. |
Wind Turbines are terribly expensive and produce very little electricty. The gebze power station produces about 1/10th of all the power in Turkey (not enough to electrify Istanbul by the way) To duplicate gebze with wind turbines (over 2000 MW of electricity), nearly 1500 wind turbines would have to be built, maintained, and on-line. Interesting future technology actually invoves building turbines on sea beds and utilizing global tides. But for now, nuclear remains the cheapest and greenest.
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01 Feb 2007 Thu 10:49 pm |
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Quoting aenigma x:
I think nuclear plants are actually very safe (the waste is DEFINITELY another matter ). Chernobil was due to human error and poor management as far as I am aware. Keith will know |
thats why i was saying too risky, humanbeings tend to make mistakes, so it needs perfect unit of control... you know nothing is too simple
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01 Feb 2007 Thu 10:53 pm |
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We could move on from this a little, does anyone know what there carbon foot print is? Now that is altogether more difficult and how would you offset your carbon usage.
Your carbon footprint is made up of travel, by car, plane etc, energy use, size of property I think, what you purchase and how far that has travelled across the world.
Calculate your Carbon Footprint
Industry pay a carbon levy according to how much energy you use and there is carbon trading as well, which mean you some how buy unused carbon points from developing countries for instance Africa to offset your own carbon usage in this country.
Carbon Trust (UK)
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01 Feb 2007 Thu 10:55 pm |
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Quoting SuiGeneris: Quoting aenigma x:
I think nuclear plants are actually very safe (the waste is DEFINITELY another matter ). Chernobil was due to human error and poor management as far as I am aware. Keith will know |
thats why i was saying too risky, humanbeings tend to make mistakes, so it needs perfect unit of control... you know nothing is too simple |
And a cover up! Poor maintenance caused the first pipe to burst and lack of expertise and ignorance for the rest. Ignorance in as much as they kept it quite when they should have evacuated the town.
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