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1.       mltm
3690 posts
 28 Nov 2005 Mon 10:14 pm

I would like to know how the men of your country are in romantic relationships (I know everyone is different but generally). I don't know much about western men. Are they very caring, protective? do they say "don't go there", "don't wear this skirt, it's too short".do they ever get very jealous? Don't they mind if his girlfriend comes home late and drunken? Do they use too many love words, do they say "I love you" easily? Are they casanova (woman chaser)? Do they believe in faith very much or little one night stands don't matter for them? Is virginity something they would prefer in a girl? Or what? Could you tell please? I'm curious.

2.       Daydreamer
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 28 Nov 2005 Mon 10:35 pm

In Poland it's hard to generalise about our men but I'll give it a go. Generally Polish guys are really great when they care about a girl (but I guess that applies to all the nations). Polish guys are definitely less creative than Turks when it comes to the language. They are not open with their feelings and saying "I love you" comes really hard to them. But when they say it, they mean it - and it's not "I love you" meaning "you're so nice and I'm enjoying THIS moment with you" but "I love you" is a declaration.
In relationships they tend to hand over the domination to their woman. It is usually her who takes the most important decisions. Of course when they meet their male friends they tell endless stories about how they rule at home, but...well..we girls know the truth
Household chores are done by both parties and usually both of them work. Women can go out alone or with their friends and so do men - but of course it differs from one relationship to another.
Ohh..and neither men nor women are expected to be virgins Actually it's pretty common that people live together for some time before getting married - something like a trial period. The number of divorces is fairly small in comparison to other EU countries - so Poles are in favour of family life as long as it doesn't limit them.

3.       mltm
3690 posts
 28 Nov 2005 Mon 10:47 pm

Oh, thank you daydreamer, now I know a bit about polish men

4.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 28 Nov 2005 Mon 10:55 pm

No problem Mltmcim, perhaps I should add that all my Polish male friends who have ever been to Turkey loved the indifferece with which they have been treaded by Turkish women. They all said that Turkish girls are like princesses - beautiful but inaccessible

5.       Chris123
156 posts
 28 Nov 2005 Mon 11:27 pm

I can tell you lots about Western men, well...English men! We have two extremes:

First the JEDI:
Most are very romantic, loving, and do not consider themselves above doing cooking, housework etc! My two great loves were both wonderful and did EVERYTHING round the house, cleaning, cooking, shopping for food..HONESTLY!
It is generally accepted that things are 50/50 and chores, bills etc. are split equally. I am not sure about going out and getting drunk etc. I think the girl who wrote that in another post must be very immature and/or young, but certainly they are not overly jealous and none of my boyfriends would DARE criticise my clothes for being too sexy or try to stop me having nights out with my girlfriends!
now....
THE DARK SIDE.... men who believe they are master of the house, master of you and master of money! Avoid them - you can usually spot them easily. They have shaved heads, wear English Flag shorts and get drunk all the time. Avoid these men at all costs...."beyond this point there be dragons.."

6.       mltm
3690 posts
 28 Nov 2005 Mon 11:28 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

No problem Mltmcim, perhaps I should add that all my Polish male friends who have ever been to Turkey loved the indifferece with which they have been treaded by Turkish women. They all said that Turkish girls are like princesses - beautiful but inaccessible



Not all of the turkish girls are like that, but they usually feign reluctance/show coyness (sorry I found it in the dictionary). It's about the culture, because our olders tell us that "show but don't let him touch" hehehe.

7.       mltm
3690 posts
 28 Nov 2005 Mon 11:33 pm

Quoting Chris123:

I can tell you lots about Western men, well...English men! We have two extremes:

First the JEDI:
Most are very romantic, loving, and do not consider themselves above doing cooking, housework etc! My two great loves were both wonderful and did EVERYTHING round the house, cleaning, cooking, shopping for food..HONESTLY!
It is generally accepted that things are 50/50 and chores, bills etc. are split equally. I am not sure about going out and getting drunk etc. I think the girl who wrote that in another post must be very immature and/or young, but certainly they are not overly jealous and none of my boyfriends would DARE criticise my clothes for being too sexy or try to stop me having nights out with my girlfriends!
now....
THE DARK SIDE.... men who believe they are master of the house, master of you and master of money! Avoid them - you can usually spot them easily. They have shaved heads, wear English Flag shorts and get drunk all the time. Avoid these men at all costs...."beyond this point there be dragons.."


wow these are really valuable information. I hope there're not a lot from the dark side. At least we can distinguish them from their heads.

8.       ramayan
2633 posts
 29 Nov 2005 Tue 12:09 am

maybe only differancies are
their being much more materyalist,their making love with much more women and their being not so much jealous their lover or wives....
but we all men are human beings

9.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 29 Nov 2005 Tue 12:14 am

I also think its hard to tell, to generalise mankind, at least in Holland.. I will try to describe a few stereotypes of Dutch men/lovers

- The straight-forward ones
They are honest, mostly blonde, tall guys who are honest, open and friendly. They joke bits and are serious by bits. They are not jealous and won't say you can't wear certain clothing. They will put their coat over you when you're cold but they're not VERY protective.
Their girlfriends are usually bright, open and friendly girls.

- The player one
I think this one suits for every player-man. They go out at night and try to kiss as many girls as possble or just one and try to get them in bed. They are usually not originally dutch tho, but they're usually not turkish either (not to make any misunderstanding up here! )
Their girlfriends, if they have any, are the ones with VERY faded earrings, huge earrings, maybe a bellypiercing or smt.. they would be pretty much labeled as Slut i guess.

- The "ROMANTIC" ones
Yesss we do have romantic guys here for as far as i know from my friends. I never found one myself
They are the ones who give you tiny candles etc for valentines (this is romance in holland) and they hold your hand and our proud of you. But i think in Turkey they would be seen a bit like weak men.. They are not over protected and not jealous. They are loyal and they cry when you break up with them.

So.. there are good guys in Holland.. and they are not too lazy to do things in household and such!! And they will keep the door open for you, give you their coat when you're cold, they will tell you you love them, maybe sometimes give you cute presents.
But i think.. what they all miss.. FIRE! SPARKLES! MAGIC!
I've never met any Dutch boy/man who had fire in his heart, who had a sparkling love that glows like its magic.. And i don't think they have the ability to make you feel like a real woman.
And these I found in my Kadir-love!

10.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 29 Nov 2005 Tue 12:19 am

Oh and to answer your questions.. this is about Dutch men.. VERY generally spoken!! No attack on anyone

- Are they very caring, protective?
They are quite caring, but not protective here.

- Do they say "don't go there", "don't wear this skirt, it's too short".?
No they don't. They might warn you for something dangerous to go to, but they won't forbid you.

- Do they ever get very jealous?
No.. not realy.. a bit..i guess the 'good' ones feel uncomfortable when you go out with friends or have a close friend that is a guy, but they won't speak their jealousy much and its not as strong as in Türkiye.

- Don't they mind if his girlfriend comes home late and drunken?
They won't get mad at you, but who would love his girlfriend to come home late and drunk?!

- Do they use too many love words, do they say "I love you" easily?
Once they r really in love they'll tell you they love you and they use lovewords, but i dont think as much as turkish/kurdish men. (or any man that grew up in turkey)

- Are they casanova (woman chaser)?
Some of them, yes.

- Do they believe in faith very much or little one night stands don't matter for them?
No, i don't think many dutch men (dutch people actually, women also) believe in faith. And some of them dont care about one night stands.

- Is virginity something they would prefer in a girl? Or what?
No I don't think that is VERY important for most dutch men. If they love you, they would ofcourse like to be 'your first time', but they won't blame you. You wont loose your NAMUS.

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