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Questions on the hijab (head scarf)
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23 Feb 2007 Fri 08:34 pm |
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I was just wondering myself if all muslim women wear the hijab (head scarf)
I know it says something about they should in the kuran but not really sure what it says.
Is there any muslim women who do not wear it? or is it vital?
Also, is it essential when praying or do they not get counted for (the prayers), for not wearing it?
How important is it?
Just pure curiosity and I would be very thankful for your replys.
Sue 
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23 Feb 2007 Fri 08:40 pm |
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This subject has been hotly debated a few times here  It seems to depend on who you talk to. Example of last discussion:-
http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_7_11438_10
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23 Feb 2007 Fri 09:08 pm |
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Quoting aenigma x: This subject has been hotly debated a few times here It seems to depend on who you talk to. Example of last discussion:-
http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_7_11438_10 |
eeek what a touchy subject! I guess others think it as more of an importancy than others.
Does anyone know the full passage from the kuran about it? Just need a little information about it.
Thanks
Sue
P.S. Thanks Aenigma for the link 
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23 Feb 2007 Fri 09:13 pm |
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Quoting babey: Does anyone know the full passage from the kuran about it? Just need a little information about it.
Thanks
Sue |
Hi Sue, heres what I think you're looking for.
Wa qul li al-mu'minat yaghdudna min absarihinna wa yahfazna furujahunna wa laa yubdina zenatahunna illa maa zahara min haa wal-yadribna bi khumurihinna ala juyubihinna; wa laa yubdina zenatahunna illa li bu'ulatihinna aw aba'ihinna aw aba'i bu'ulatihinna aw abna'ihinna aw abna'i bu'ulatihinna aw ikhwanihinna aw bani ikhwanihinna aw bani akhawatihinna aw nisa'ihinna aw maa malakat aymanu hunna aw at-tabi'ina ghayri ulu'l-irbat min ar-rijal aw at-tifl alladhina lam yazharu ala awrat an-nisa wa laa yadribna bi arjulihinna li yu'lama maa yukhfina min zenatahinna. Wa tubu ilaAllahi jami'an, ayyuha al-mu'minun la'allakum tuflihun
--------- translation for you Sue ----------------
And say to the faithful women to lower their gazes, and to guard their private parts, and not to display their beauty except what is apparent of it, and to extend their headcoverings (khimars) to cover their bosoms (jaybs), and not to display their beauty except to their husbands, or their fathers, or their husband's fathers, or their sons, or their husband's sons, or their brothers, or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their womenfolk, or what their right hands rule (slaves), or the followers from the men who do not feel sexual desire, or the small children to whom the nakedness of women is not apparent, and not to strike their feet (on the ground) so as to make known what they hide of their adornments. And turn in repentance to Allah together, O you the faithful, in order that you are successful
Hope I helped
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23 Feb 2007 Fri 09:17 pm |
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You are welcome. As you can see, it appears to depend on the translation and interpretation of the part saying that women should "cover all ornaments/adornments".
This always seems very vague to me! There are SOME men who would consider every part of their girlfriend/wife to be an adornment! And...what about eyes? Surely they are a very important "adornment"!! And by covering the head and body, you are focusing all attention on the eyes  .
I am completely unqualified to reply to this and also will reserve judgement on the sexism involved here, but would just say that in the modern world I would think a good interpretation would be to not dress overtly sexually.
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23 Feb 2007 Fri 09:29 pm |
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I agree that it should mever be forced, it is a choice. Also, does it not say in the Qu'ran Wa kana Allahu Ghafur Rahim - And God is ever Forgiving, Gentle (Surah al-Ahzab ayah 59)
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23 Feb 2007 Fri 09:34 pm |
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The question of the hijab/veil is interpretated differently so there's no correct answer as to how much women should cover up. But the interesting thing is (so I have read) that originally (in the time of Muhammed saw) it was only his wives who wore it (actually first it was a curtain that was between the wife in question and a visitor) and it was a very honerable thing that made other women jealous and want to wear it too. It didn't become costum until a few generations after Muhammed saw.
That's why I don't consider the veil a necessity and don't wear it as well. Maybe if I'm in Turkey and have a really bad hair day (or an imam comes to visit)
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24 Feb 2007 Sat 02:28 am |
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24 Feb 2007 Sat 02:29 am |
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Quoting nautilis: Quoting kai: Quoting babey: Does anyone know the full passage from the kuran about it? Just need a little information about it.
Thanks
Sue |
Hi Sue, heres what I think you're looking for.
Wa qul li al-mu'minat yaghdudna min absarihinna wa yahfazna furujahunna wa laa yubdina zenatahunna illa maa zahara min haa wal-yadribna bi khumurihinna ala juyubihinna; wa laa yubdina zenatahunna illa li bu'ulatihinna aw aba'ihinna aw aba'i bu'ulatihinna aw abna'ihinna aw abna'i bu'ulatihinna aw ikhwanihinna aw bani ikhwanihinna aw bani akhawatihinna aw nisa'ihinna aw maa malakat aymanu hunna aw at-tabi'ina ghayri ulu'l-irbat min ar-rijal aw at-tifl alladhina lam yazharu ala awrat an-nisa wa laa yadribna bi arjulihinna li yu'lama maa yukhfina min zenatahinna. Wa tubu ilaAllahi jami'an, ayyuha al-mu'minun la'allakum tuflihun
--------- translation for you Sue ----------------
And say to the faithful women to lower their gazes, and to guard their private parts, and not to display their beauty except what is apparent of it, and to extend their headcoverings (khimars) to cover their bosoms (jaybs), and not to display their beauty except to their husbands, or their fathers, or their husband's fathers, or their sons, or their husband's sons, or their brothers, or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their womenfolk, or what their right hands rule (slaves), or the followers from the men who do not feel sexual desire, or the small children to whom the nakedness of women is not apparent, and not to strike their feet (on the ground) so as to make known what they hide of their adornments. And turn in repentance to Allah together, O you the faithful, in order that you are successful
Hope I helped |
what about keeping ur beauty for ur husbands? why do you think it is offered? |
you are asking why beauty is offered to husbands?:-S
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24 Feb 2007 Sat 02:34 am |
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