Quoting aenigma x:

I have nothing else to say on this as I it is such a sensitive subject which makes rational discussion impossible.

Quoting aenigma x:

By "Islamic state" I mean a country that is governed by religious leaders. As a non-Muslim living in an "Islamic state" (Iran for example) I would be discriminated against - this is my point.

As a non muslim I would be referred to as a 'Zimmis'. Zimmis cannot testify against Muslims. They can only testify against other Zimmis or Musta'min. Their oaths are not considered valid in an Islamic court. A Zimmi, regarded as an infidel, cannot testify against any Muslim regardless of his moral credibility. One serious implication of this is that if one Muslim has committed a serious offense against another, witnessed by Zimmis only, the court will have difficulty deciding the case since the testimonies of Zimmis are not acceptable.

Yet, this same Zimmi whose integrity is blemished, if he converts to Islam, will have his testimony accepted against the Zimmis and Muslims alike, because according to the Shari`a, "By embracing Islam he has gained a new credibility which would enable him to witness..." All he has to do is to utter the Islamic confession of faith before witnesses, and that will elevate him from being an outcast to being a respected Muslim enjoying all the privileges of a devout Muslim.

I would also be subjected to the following rules:-
(1) Zimmis are not allowed to build new churches, temples, or synagogues.
2) Zimmis are not allowed to pray or read their sacred books out loud at home or in churches, lest Muslims hear their prayers.
3) Zimmis are not allowed to print their religious books or sell them in public places and markets. They are allowed to publish and sell them among their own people, in their churches and temples.
4) Zimmis are not allowed to install the cross on their houses or churches since it is a symbol of infidelity.
5) Zimmis are not permitted to broadcast or display their ceremonial religious rituals on radio or television or to use the media or to publish any picture of their religious ceremonies in newspaper and magazines.
6) Zimmis are not allowed to congregate in the streets during their religious festivals; rather, each must quietly make his way to his church or temple.
7) Zimmis are not allowed to join the army unless there is indispensable need for them in which case they are not allowed to assume leadership positions but are considered mercenaries.
(8) I could not achieve any position of authority in my job because the command of non-Muslims over Muslims in not admissible, because God Almighty said: 'Allah will not give access to the infidels (i.e. Christians) to have authority over believers (Muslims) {Qur'an 4:141}.

In the scheme of things, I think that not allowing a headscarf to be worn whilst playing football is rather a minor detail!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quoting aenigma x:

Clearly I have touched upon a "raw nerve" here. I am merely saying that those muslims living in USA and UK and who complain that they are being discriminated against, should remember that we are discriminated against too!

I have nothing else to say on this as I it is such a sensitive subject which makes rational discussion impossible.

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Quoting nautilis:

about zımmis: islam should be accepted with only freewill, no one can ban any believer to practice their religion, even our prophet let jews or christians or other believers to live in their way, the others r just politicians, first of all, we r just tellers, we have no power to force anybody to change their life

Quoting nautilis:

about zımmis: islam should be accepted with only freewill, no one can ban any believer to practice their religion, even our prophet let jews or christians or other believers to live in their way, the others r just politicians, first of all, we r just tellers, we have no power to force anybody to change their life

Quoting aenigma x: