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Tömer / Dilmer?
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1.       Elisa
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 04 Mar 2007 Sun 11:14 am

I want to go and follow a course at Tömer this summer, but now I started reading about Dilmer and they seem to offer an interesting course as well.. The course periods and teaching systems seem to be more or less the same. I think Dilmer is a bit more expensive though, still have to look into that.
Anyway, now I'm doubting what I should do..
Are there people here who are familiar with courses at Tömer / Dilmer? I'd be very happy if you could share some information and experiences!

2.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 04 Mar 2007 Sun 04:37 pm

I don't know what Dilmer is. As far as I know, Tömer is an organization of the University of Ankara.

3.       Elisa
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 04 Mar 2007 Sun 04:41 pm

I did some research you know I was all for Tömer but then I saw Dilmer's site.
I also remember Dilmer being mentioned here, but I can't find the thread anymore..

4.       Trudy
7887 posts
 04 Mar 2007 Sun 05:01 pm

Quoting Elisa:

I also remember Dilmer being mentioned here, but I can't find the thread anymore..



There are six threads with the word Dilmer. I don't know which one you are looking for?

5.       Elisa
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 04 Mar 2007 Sun 05:03 pm

Quoting Trudy:

There are six threads with the word Dilmer. I don't know which one you are looking for?



I know there are threads referrering to the exercises on their website. But I haven't found any about the actual course. Did I overlook something?

6.       ilka
15 posts
 04 Mar 2007 Sun 05:51 pm

did you try www.dilmer.com? they have course timetables there. dilmer used to be part of tömer, the method is fairly similar. tömer spreads the course over 12 units though, dilmer has only 6 which means you do more grammar in one course. prices are exactly the same though.
are you coming to istanbul? i went to tömer in antalya which was cool. in istanbul it has a bad reputation, i met some students at dilmer who changed because they didn´t like the teachers at tömer..
anyway, have fun. kolay gelsin

7.       Elisa
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 04 Mar 2007 Sun 06:33 pm

Thanks for your reply Ilka!
So if I understood correctly (and comparing both programs), a student at Dilmer would learn more in the same period of time? I have to wonder how they do that though, since they have the same schedule.. You think they stress more on theory then?

But what about that "bad reputation" of Tömer's teachers in Istanbul?? I never heard Tömer being associated with "bad reputation" before..

8.       qdemir
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 05 Mar 2007 Mon 12:54 am

Tömer has more than one branch in İstanbul. When some students/learners, especially the spoon-feeding kind, haven't managed to learn any subject they tend to blame their theachers, schools for their own failure as they just can't admit it is their own failure. There are, of course, unqualified teachers too.

9.       libralady
5152 posts
 05 Mar 2007 Mon 10:48 am

Quoting qdemir:

Tömer has more than one branch in İstanbul. When some students/learners, especially the spoon-feeding kind, haven't managed to learn any subject they tend to blame their theachers, schools for their own failure as they just can't admit it is their own failure. There are, of course, unqualified teachers too.



How very true - they exist in all walks of life.

10.       Elisa
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 05 Mar 2007 Mon 11:01 am

Quoting qdemir:

Tömer has more than one branch in İstanbul. When some students/learners, especially the spoon-feeding kind, haven't managed to learn any subject they tend to blame their theachers, schools for their own failure as they just can't admit it is their own failure. There are, of course, unqualified teachers too.



That is very typical behaviour indeed qdemir, I was thinking exactly the same thing yesterday.
Anyway, I decided not to care too much

11.       sophie
2712 posts
 05 Mar 2007 Mon 12:23 pm

My turkish teacher had told me that Tomer is by far more reliable than Dilmer. While discussing about the exams I should pass to get my first degree in the turkish language, she said that although at Dilmer the tests were easier, I should apply at Tomer, cause that certificate would worth more.

Also, for what this is worth, note that Tomer's certificate is recognized by the greek government, but Dilmer's not.

12.       libralady
5152 posts
 05 Mar 2007 Mon 03:04 pm

And do you know that Tõmer is also available through Distance Learning. I am now assessing whether it is worth while as the lessons are very structured. You can have a look at sample lessons (Units) on the site.

13.       Elisa
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 05 Mar 2007 Mon 10:59 pm

Thanks for your replies

14.       ilka
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 05 Mar 2007 Mon 11:30 pm

i took courses both at dilmer and tömer. teaching methods are fairly similar. the main difference is the amount of grammar you learn in one course. as i said dilmer does the same grammar as tömer in six months instead of twelve. which one you prefer is up to you.
as for tömer in taksim, it´s just rumours but the people i met found it a bit too business like and anonymous.
i think in the end it comes down to your group an your teacher.. good luck

15.       Chantal
587 posts
 05 Mar 2007 Mon 11:31 pm

I'm going to follow a Turkish course at EF Language Center in Levent/Istanbul. I've been in contact with Dilmer as well, and they're very friendly and helpful, but what struck me was that they don't offer any housing, only some addresses.
That's the reason why I chose for EF.. I'm not quite sure, but I think they're not that much more expensive than when you're looking for a place yourself..

Good luck, and drop me a message when you'll be there, we might meet! (I'm probably there from the 9th of July until the 9th of August..)

xxx

16.       gezbelle
1542 posts
 09 Mar 2007 Fri 07:10 am

i found this about dilmer and tömer on this guy's travel log:

http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/20ab6/1c0a38/a/

"There are two schools for foreigners to learn Turkish in Istanbul. The one I studied at was called Dilmer, which takes you right from beginners' level to advanced where you sit for the Turkish Universities' Language Certificate. Each course lasts one month, with four hours of lessons five days a week (20 hours a week). You can choose to study mornings or afternoons, or spread one course over two months by only studying three days a week. They also have weekend and evening classes. A one month intensive course costs 280 Euro.

Some of the teachers are excellent, others less so. I was just lucky. Most of them know at least one other language (usually English German or Greek) This is obviously useful in the beginning, but foreign languages are discouraged in class, everything explained in Turkish. Classes are never huge, but are rarely as small as they are advertised, usually around 10-12. The best thing about Dilmer is its localtion, just off Inonu Caddesi, the road which runs from Taksim Square through Gumussuyu to the Besiktas Stadium and Dolmabahce Palace. Taksim Square is just 5 minutes walk away, making Dilmer easily accessible from all parts of the city.

An alternative school is Tomer, which is run by Ankara University. There are branches all over the country (Trabzon, Kayseri, Bursa, etc.) but don't get too excited, as the Turkish courses are really only available in Ankara, Istanbul and possibly Izmir. The school in Istanbul is in an area called Sisli (s is like sh both times...shishli), not the most attractive part of istanbul, but fairly central (half hour walk from Taksim Square, 2 stops by metro). The courses there are similar in price, but students who had 'defected' to Dilmer complained about the very strict exam system.

While searching for the websites above, i came across this school, which I haven't heard of before; Concept Languages in Etiler Maybe worth investigating..."

17.       Elisa
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 09 Mar 2007 Fri 07:51 pm

Quoting gezbelle:


Quoting chantal:


Quoting ilka:



Thanks for your replies girls

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