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Constructing a sentence - 2
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03 Dec 2005 Sat 10:16 pm |
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yw anytime anywhere Elisa...
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03 Dec 2005 Sat 11:14 pm |
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teşekkürler 
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03 Dec 2005 Sat 11:29 pm |
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Sevgili Elisa
kitabi iyi calis
kitapta sayfa 25 ve 27'de senin cevplarin var/
Neden -n????
third person possessive adjectives and then another suffix. only third person singular and plural
ik ga jou een bestand sturen
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04 Dec 2005 Sun 12:08 pm |
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Hi Konat7
Thanks for your help. But since you only referred to a book, I'll try to explain it here for the others.
Arkadaşımın evine gidiyorum
A fusion consonant is added because two vowels come together. The first vowel is part of another suffix though, so -n instead of -y is added. So "...eviNe gidiyorum" ama "kediYe gidiyorum".
Arkadaşımın evindeyim
When the suffix -de/da (and also -den/dan) is added to a word which ends with a possessive suffix ending with -i/si, an extra -n is added. So "arkadaşımın eviNdeyim" (I am at my friends house) but "evimdeyim" (I am in/at my house)
I think I got it now, thanks.
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04 Dec 2005 Sun 02:26 pm |
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Quoting Elisa: A fusion consonant is added because two vowels come together. The first vowel is part of another suffix though, so -n instead of -y is added. So "...eviNe gidiyorum" ama "kediYe gidiyorum". |
I'm getting even more confused now :-S
This seems to contradict this article
"Sometimes one of the two vowels is dropped, sometimes one fusion consonant is added in between.
However, what you do is consistent for a given suffix."
My understanding has been that for a given suffix a fusion consonant is always added if needed or not at all and that the same fusion consonant is used in all case for that given suffix. Are you saying that the fusion consonant can change for the same suffix?
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04 Dec 2005 Sun 05:03 pm |
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Quoting bod: Quoting Elisa: A fusion consonant is added because two vowels come together. The first vowel is part of another suffix though, so -n instead of -y is added. So "...eviNe gidiyorum" ama "kediYe gidiyorum". |
I'm getting even more confused now :-S
This seems to contradict this article
"Sometimes one of the two vowels is dropped, sometimes one fusion consonant is added in between.
However, what you do is consistent for a given suffix."
My understanding has been that for a given suffix a fusion consonant is always added if needed or not at all and that the same fusion consonant is used in all case for that given suffix. Are you saying that the fusion consonant can change for the same suffix? |
No. For example, when you say, "I'm going to the coast", you say "Kıyıya gidiyorum". To add the direction suffix e/a to a word that ends with a vowel, you'll always have to use -y- as a fusion consonant. However, when that last vowel belongs to a (possessive) suffix (-i/-si) that is already added to the word, you will have to use -n- as a fusion consonant. The adding of this -n- applies to all words ending with a vowel of another suffix. So the rule stays consistent. Example: "Annenin arabasına gidiyorum", "I'm going to mother's car". There will never be a time where the -n- will change to an -s- or a -y- for example for these kind of words. At least, that's how I understood it. There might be an occasional exception, but I don't think we have to break our heads on those for now.
I leave it to the pro's here to correct me if I'm wrong of course 
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05 Dec 2005 Mon 04:56 pm |
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Quoting Elisa: No. For example, when you say, "I'm going to the coast", you say "Kıyıya gidiyorum". To add the direction suffix e/a to a word that ends with a vowel, you'll always have to use -y- as a fusion consonant. However, when that last vowel belongs to a (possessive) suffix (-i/-si) that is already added to the word, you will have to use -n- as a fusion consonant. The adding of this -n- applies to all words ending with a vowel of another suffix. So the rule stays consistent. Example: "Annenin arabasına gidiyorum", "I'm going to mother's car". There will never be a time where the -n- will change to an -s- or a -y- for example for these kind of words. At least, that's how I understood it. There might be an occasional exception, but I don't think we have to break our heads on those for now.
I leave it to the pro's here to correct me if I'm wrong of course |
Ah!
Thank you - that makes it much clearer 
But it also raises another question :-S
Does the -y- fusion consonant change to a -n- fusion consonant for all suffixes where a -y- fusion consonant is used or is the behaviour different for different suffixes?????
Sorry to ask so many questions 
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