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SMOKING men??
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07 Dec 2005 Wed 07:33 pm |
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well i know alot of turkish men and only one of them smokes
oh well
i dont really mind other people smoke as long as they dont smoke near me
i hate the smell of smoke!!
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07 Dec 2005 Wed 07:46 pm |
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Quoting Boop: It isn't strange why the English Government allows advertising and manufacture of cigarettes - they get a huge amount of revenue from it. |
the strange thing is government is poisoning its own society i am not talking about money
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07 Dec 2005 Wed 07:48 pm |
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I used to smoke myself, and I will never judge other people who smoke because believe me, once you have been a smoker, you realize how difficult it is to quit with it. Smokers are addicts, and an addiction does really weird things with your mind. Your mind plays tricks on you. People who smoke/used to smoke will understand me. We all know people who suffer from diseases that are related to smoking. Even the most intelligent person knows that it is very dangerous, but that doesn't stop him from smoking.
I read once that it is more difficult to get rid of a cigarette addiction than to get rid of a heroin addiction. This was in a report of a scientific study.
Coincidentally today I heard something funny. Don't know if it's true but I'll tell it anyway. For some time now, smoking is forbidden in pubs in Ireland. It seems now that people are complaining of pubs stinking of sweat, and well, other odours and gasses that people produce and release... Y'all know how a classroom can stink after one day, it's like the oxygen has been replaced by other gasses and odours.. Seems that's the smell of pubs in Ireland now, now that they're not masked by the smell of cigarettes anymore...
Anyway, I'm glad that I am not a smoker anymore, but as I said, I will never judge anyone because he/she is still smoking.
Elisa
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07 Dec 2005 Wed 07:49 pm |
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i know
why dont they just stop them from being made then people are not getting poisend and they wont be able to waste thier money on them anymore
oh well...
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07 Dec 2005 Wed 08:06 pm |
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Quoting ~annabella~: i know
why dont they just stop them from being made then people are not getting poisend and they wont be able to waste thier money on them anymore
oh well... |
This is more complicated than it seems. Because then you should forbid people to drink alcohol as well. Alcohol is poisonous too. People who are addicted to it suffer from health problems. Drunk people can cause problems, and can be very annoying to other people. But it's still socially accepted. And there are plenty of adds for alcoholic drinks.. And as far as I know, people are free to have themselves intoxicated if they want that. There is no rule that says you shouldn't. It only depends on your common sense.
Of course, when you sit in a restaurant for example, somebody who is smoking at the table next to you is much more annoying than a person enjoying a glass of nice red wine!
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07 Dec 2005 Wed 08:30 pm |
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There's not a single health benefit of even one cigarette, but it's said that a reasonable amount of alcohol can be beneficial.
And also alcohols are added to meals to give a good taste.
And I don't see a lot of people around who drink everyday because once they started drinking, but I see a lot of people who smoke everyday because once they started smoking.
So, I tihnk they're not the same.
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07 Dec 2005 Wed 08:39 pm |
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Quoting Boop: It isn't strange why the English Government allows advertising and manufacture of cigarettes - they get a huge amount of revenue from it. |
I agree with you on the revenue front. The British Government makes billions of pounds per year from the tax revenue on tobacco. They make a lot more from the revenue, than the cost to the NHS of smoking related diseases. Also, let's face it, the British Government will not be too keen on an outright ban on smoking - after all, a paternalistic Government is not necessarily a popular one...
But as for the advertising... Now without wanting to sound too lawyerly...! It isn't allowed in the UK. Tobacco advertising is actually banned in the UK. Television adverts of tobacco products were banned in the UK in 1965 under the Television Act 1964. (This was reinforced by an EU directive in the 80’s). Then, in 2003, the Tobacco Advertising and Promotion Act 2002 banned direct and indirect advertising of tobacco products and also promotions. Under this Act it meant that tobacco advertising on billboards and in newspapers/magazines was banned from February 2003. Sponsorship of sports events by tobacco companies began to be phased out from 2003. Formula 1 racing is an exception, but sponsorship by tobacco companies here will only be allowed until next year. However, whether advertising does or does not have an influence on consumption seems to be unresolved....
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07 Dec 2005 Wed 08:48 pm |
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i would never judge poeple because they smoke
but i still think that people shouldent smoke
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07 Dec 2005 Wed 08:50 pm |
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Quoting mltm: There's not a single health benefit of even one cigarette, but it's said that a reasonable amount of alcohol can be beneficial.
And also alcohols are added to meals to give a good taste.
And I don't see a lot of people around who drink everyday because once they started drinking, but I see a lot of people who smoke everyday because once they started smoking.
So, I tihnk they're not the same. |
I am not a scientist, but I think that alcohol is less addictive than nicotine indeed. I agree with you that it's more likely to become a nicotine addict than an alcohol addict.
I used to have a link in my bookmarks with all the addictive ingredients in cigarettes, I don't know if I still have it, but I remember there were more than 500.... Also, tobacco companies put extra ingredients in cigarettes which add nothing to the taste, but only to make them more addictive (and yes, bingo! $$$$$!!)
Alcohol being good for your health is still controversial. Some sources say that one glass of wine a day is good for your heart, yes. I hope this is really true, because I really like my bir bardak kirmizi sarap with my dinner 
But Mltm, I hope you realize that I'm not defending smoking!! It's bad bad bad, I know that. But you have to realize that an addiction is like a mental disease. You can only understand that once you've been a regular smoker, as I said before, it's really creepy what an addiction does to your mind, you know.
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07 Dec 2005 Wed 08:58 pm |
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You are absolutely right Natlisa - I stand corrected.
But the other pont SuiG made Government poisoning its own pepole - where money is concerned the Government couldn't care a fig about the health of its people - which is really bizarre since smoking-related illness costs the National Health Service millions and contributes to the strain it is under - totally mad world! :-S
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07 Dec 2005 Wed 09:01 pm |
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Since summer this year it is forbidden to smoke in restaurants, pubs and discos in Sweden due to the helth of people working there. I think it's very good cause the air is now breathable...and anyone can choose themselves if they wanna smoke or not.
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