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SMOKING men??
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07 Dec 2005 Wed 09:01 pm |
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Since summer this year it is forbidden to smoke in restaurants, pubs and discos in Sweden due to the helth of people working there. I think it's very good cause the air is now breathable...and anyone can choose themselves if they wanna smoke or not.
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07 Dec 2005 Wed 09:01 pm |
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This is the Cigarette Additives link I mentioned. It is quite shocking in my opinion...
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| 22. |
07 Dec 2005 Wed 09:14 pm |
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Quoting Boop: You are absolutely right Natlisa - I stand corrected.
But the other pont SuiG made Government poisoning its own pepole - where money is concerned the Government couldn't care a fig about the health of its people - which is really bizarre since smoking-related illness costs the National Health Service millions and contributes to the strain it is under - totally mad world! :-S |
I agree with you Boop - it is a totally mad world!  The thing is as long as the revenue tax raised from tobacco pays the NHS costs of smoking related diseases.. the government won't care. They make too much money out of smokers. It's some ridiculous figure like the tobacco industry makes the British Government about £10 billion per year, but the cost of smoking related diseases costs £1.5 billion (a lot less!). As for the strain the NHS is under though - I couldn't agree more!
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07 Dec 2005 Wed 09:16 pm |
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Quoting Elisa: This is the Cigarette Additives link I mentioned. It is quite shocking in my opinion... |
Whoa Elisa... you're right - that is quite shocking!
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07 Dec 2005 Wed 09:31 pm |
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Quoting Elisa:
But Mltm, I hope you realize that I'm not defending smoking!! It's bad bad bad, I know that. But you have to realize that an addiction is like a mental disease. You can only understand that once you've been a regular smoker, as I said before, it's really creepy what an addiction does to your mind, you know. |
No, I know you're not defending smoking.I just told these, to say that cigarettes should not be produced legally but alcohol is another issue. We can't compare them.
And I've heard something about genes that are responsible for addiction. Some people are more likely to become addicted to anything because they have these genes. But ofcourse we can't hide behind this excuse for smoking. Because as far as I know the smoking addiction is not physical, it's pychological, so this means we can control it.
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07 Dec 2005 Wed 09:36 pm |
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Quoting Elisa: This is the Cigarette Additives link I mentioned. It is quite shocking in my opinion... |
Since I study chemistry, they're interesting compounds for me, but I guess they're not interesting things to take them in your body 
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| 26. |
07 Dec 2005 Wed 09:48 pm |
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Quoting mltm: ....as far as I know the smoking addiction is not physical, it's pychological, so this means we can control it. |
You got this so very right Mltm!! Do you know that you can get rid of the nicotine addiction after 3 days? It's out of your system by then, so all those nicotine chewing gum things and nicotine patches are BS, they just prolong the whole thing! You have to be strong for 3 days, and then that part is over.
It's the mental addiction that is the worst of all. Associating smoking with nice nights out, with a glass of wine, with a coffee.. This may all sound very pathetic to people who never smoked, I realize that. But it's how I experienced it. And I don't think that I'm the only one.
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07 Dec 2005 Wed 09:51 pm |
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i dont understand why threads like this are made... no offence but.. some people are smokers and some arent... big deal eh?
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07 Dec 2005 Wed 11:45 pm |
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Because it started as a question And tbh i think smoking is a good subject on this forum because to me it seemed like smoking is a part of turkish society. Especially as in Nargile. They have become trendy in holland hahah.. See this is what we do with culture.. we steal it and then make it fashionable
I really like Nargile (i mean i havent used it, but the sound and becuase its not so bad like cigarettes..right?) but i dont like smoking.
Maybe they should make cigarettes twice as expensive as they are now. That wont make the addicts of nowadays stop, but here in holland the economics are getting worse and its predicted that dutch young people dont have very much money to spend. Maybe that will stop the youngsters from trying because then it would be like 8 euros a package, which is lika half cd!
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08 Dec 2005 Thu 12:23 am |
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8 euros a package? 
then i ll have to start smoking maydanoz lan!!! how can i afford it?
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08 Dec 2005 Thu 02:14 am |
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I was a smoker a year and a half ago. I wasn't smoking too much but I still carried a pocked around and was addicted to it.
When I came to Britain the public made me feel like an idiot because I was smoking. I really felt uncomfortable in many places and smokers were not welcome everywhere.
When I was looking to let a flat smoking was a problem and the landlords were very seriously asking whether or not I was smoking. They were not willing to let a flat to a smoker. One of them told me that if I rent the place and after a while quit the smell will remain there and a non-smoker might not want the place.
When I first came I wanted to rent a room and they told me that I couldnt smoke in the house.
In Turkia smoking is still considered to be a symbol of strenght. It might sound strange but some women feel more independent because they smoke. Normally a women should smoke in public according some traditional lifestyles in Turkia. So some women take the challange and they do.
On the other hand for men it is a mannish thing. Smoking, beer and football matches perfectly for many Turkish men. For the young boys smoking is a symbol of maturness.
I think these things play a role in smoking. In Britain I feel like everyone feels pity for the smokers as they are not so logical and harm their own life. I do as well. So I have quit a year and a half ago.
I also congratulate the British Government for rising the tabacco prices incredibly high to make it so unpopular. As far as I know in Britain the tabacco prices are higher thahn in any other EU country. I think they even dont follow the EU borders regulations to keep it high.
Unfortunately in Turkia we have the TEKEL (the Turkish State Liquor and Tobacco Monopoly) which is a official company owned by the Government and as far as I know they are making a good profit.
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