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28 Apr 2007 Sat 05:07 pm |
one of most poor and smallest city of Turkey but full with rich hearted people,and i come from this lovely city >>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpGhcwhAiIM&mode=related&search=
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28 Apr 2007 Sat 06:18 pm |
Supposedly the broad population in Tunceli more or less hates the army, and therefore soldiers can't ever leave the karakol when they have some spare time.
It's a beautiful place though. I'd like to go there some time. I read that some individuals are trying to promote Tunceli as a tourist destination, can anyone confirm this?
Really beautiful video - and music of course
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28 Apr 2007 Sat 07:12 pm |
well,there r some political wrongs about Tunceli from some local people and from some part of goverment since long years.but each corner of our paradise country nicer then each other with original specialites and beauties.things would be better over there with the mutual support of people and goverment
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28 Apr 2007 Sat 07:22 pm |
Quoting azade: Supposedly the broad population in Tunceli more or less hates the army, and therefore soldiers can't ever leave the karakol when they have some spare time.
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What does this mean? Do you mean that more or less of the people in Tunceli are terrorists? people should have to love Turkish army if they dont want to be ungrateful and and i think all of the people does if they do not then they should go out of Turkiye as soon as possible or army does what is requirable because Turkish Army and the people of Turkiye is the founder of Turkish republic and Tunceli is a city of Turkish republic. Surely soldiers can leave the karakol. I think people in that city is used as a toy of imperialism if ur comment is true but i do not think so. So people must respect Turkish Arrmy if not one day when the time came, they will surely punished, the Turkish Army is the only army in the world who won war gainst imperialism,that should not be forgotten. The patience of people in Turkiye closely come to an end and when this happen unfortunately wet will burn besides dry.
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28 Apr 2007 Sat 07:26 pm |
But in none of the big travelsites or in LP Tunceli is mentioned. So I think not many people will go there because it is unknown. I just passed it last year on my bus travel from Elazığ to Erzincan.
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28 Apr 2007 Sat 07:27 pm |
Quoting armegon: Quoting azade: Supposedly the broad population in Tunceli more or less hates the army, and therefore soldiers can't ever leave the karakol when they have some spare time.
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What does this mean? Do you mean that more or less of the people in Tunceli are terrorists? people should have to love Turkish army if they dont want to be ungrateful and most of the people does if they do not then they should go out of Turkiye as soon as possible or army does what is requirable because Turkish Army and the people of Turkiye is the founder of Turkish republic and Tunceli is a city of Turkish republic. Surely soldiers can leave the karakol. I think people in that city is used as a toy of imperialism if ur comment is true but i do not think so. So people must respect Turkish Arrmy if not one day when the time came, they will surely punished, the Turkish Army is the only army in the world who won war gainst imperialism,that should not be forgotten. The patience of people in Turkiye closely come to an end and when this happen unfortunately wet will burn besides dry. |
ofcourse Tunceli a city of Turkey republic and we all have to hold values of our young republic,but with more tolerance ,peace and justice.Tunceli's people didn't come from another place,they r the owners of this country and republic as much as others,and we proud with to be citizen of Turkish republic..
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28 Apr 2007 Sat 07:32 pm |
Quoting MrX67: ofcourse Tunceli a city of Turkey republic and we all have to hold values of our young republic,but with more tolerance ,peace and justice.Tunceli's people didn't come from another place,they r the owners of this country and republic as much as others,and we proud with to be citizen of Turkish republic.. |
Army also have tolerance, peace and justice. What does Turkish army do to break tolerance, peace and justice? Or Do people become ungrateful? Who do you mean with "They"?They are also Turks and Turks also live there.
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28 Apr 2007 Sat 07:35 pm |
Quoting armegon: Quoting MrX67: ofcourse Tunceli a city of Turkey republic and we all have to hold values of our young republic,but with more tolerance ,peace and justice.Tunceli's people didn't come from another place,they r the owners of this country and republic as much as others,and we proud with to be citizen of Turkish republic.. |
Army also have tolerance, peace and justice. What does Turkish army do to break tolerance, peace and justice? Or Do people become ungrateful? Who do you mean with "They"?They are also Turks and Turks also live there. |
we are citizien of Thish wonderfull country and we proud of with Turkish army,i hope thats enough for ur worries armegon??
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28 Apr 2007 Sat 07:36 pm |
Quoting Trudy: But in none of the big travelsites or in LP Tunceli is mentioned. So I think not many people will go there because it is unknown. I just passed it last lear on my bus travel from Elazığ to Erzincan. |
Do not worry, if the events happen as you mentioned, it will be fixed nearly, as soon as possible when we release from exterior forces.
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28 Apr 2007 Sat 07:39 pm |
Quoting MrX67: Quoting armegon: Quoting MrX67: ofcourse Tunceli a city of Turkey republic and we all have to hold values of our young republic,but with more tolerance ,peace and justice.Tunceli's people didn't come from another place,they r the owners of this country and republic as much as others,and we proud with to be citizen of Turkish republic.. |
Army also have tolerance, peace and justice. What does Turkish army do to break tolerance, peace and justice? Or Do people become ungrateful? Who do you mean with "They"?They are also Turks and Turks also live there. |
we are citizien of Thish wonderfull country and we proud of with Turkish army,i hope thats enough for ur worries armegon?? |
Thanks MrX67 sure we are proud of Turkish army, i said ungrateful to who hate Turkish army.
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28 Apr 2007 Sat 07:39 pm |
Quoting armegon: Quoting Trudy: But in none of the big travelsites or in LP Tunceli is mentioned. So I think not many people will go there because it is unknown. I just passed it last lear on my bus travel from Elazığ to Erzincan. |
Do not worry, if the events happen as you mentioned, it will be fixed nearly, as soon as possible when we release from exterior forces. |
we all have to love each other more then ever for more stronger Turkey against to exterior forcers,just a bit more love for the more hate and just a bit more tolerance for the prejudges,thats all..
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28 Apr 2007 Sat 07:43 pm |
Quoting MrX67: Quoting armegon: Quoting Trudy: But in none of the big travelsites or in LP Tunceli is mentioned. So I think not many people will go there because it is unknown. I just passed it last lear on my bus travel from Elazığ to Erzincan. |
Do not worry, if the events happen as you mentioned, it will be fixed nearly, as soon as possible when we release from exterior forces. |
we all have to love each other more then ever for more stronger Turkey against to exterior forcers,just a bit more love for the more hate and just a bit more tolerance for the prejudges,thats all.. |
I do not say anything else what u have written, i only say people must respect Turkish Army then people can unite and love eachother.
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28 Apr 2007 Sat 08:01 pm |
Quoting armegon:
What does this mean? Do you mean that more or less of the people in Tunceli are terrorists? people should have to love Turkish army if they dont want to be ungrateful and and i think all of the people does if they do not then they should go out of Turkiye as soon as possible or army does what is requirable because Turkish Army and the people of Turkiye is the founder of Turkish republic and Tunceli is a city of Turkish republic. Surely soldiers can leave the karakol. I think people in that city is used as a toy of imperialism if ur comment is true but i do not think so. So people must respect Turkish Arrmy if not one day when the time came, they will surely punished, the Turkish Army is the only army in the world who won war gainst imperialism,that should not be forgotten. The patience of people in Turkiye closely come to an end and when this happen unfortunately wet will burn besides dry. |
I'm reluctant to discuss my own view on the army, and there's nothing in my post above that was pointed negatively towards it. And by no means are people in Tunceli terrorists, I'm well aware of that. I read that there are an estimated 350 terrorists spending the winter in the mountains there, but anyway my comment was simply directed at the fact that there seems to be some tension between the general population and the army. I think it's a shame. But unfortunately it indeed true that soldiers normally can't leave the karakol because of it. Maybe in Tunceli merkez (I'm not aware of that) but not in the smaller towns. I wish there wouldn't be so much tension in the region in general because it's such a beautiful with rich cultural values.
Anyway I'm not trying to raise a touchy subject
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28 Apr 2007 Sat 08:02 pm |
Quoting MrX67: we all have to love each other more then ever for more stronger Turkey against to exterior forcers,just a bit more love for the more hate and just a bit more tolerance for the prejudges,thats all.. |
Yes, exactly Good point
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28 Apr 2007 Sat 08:36 pm |
Quoting azade:
I'm reluctant to discuss my own view on the army, and there's nothing in my post above that was pointed negatively towards it. And by no means are people in Tunceli terrorists, I'm well aware of that. I read that there are an estimated 350 terrorists spending the winter in the mountains there, but anyway my comment was simply directed at the fact that there seems to be some tension between the general population and the army. I think it's a shame. But unfortunately it indeed true that soldiers normally can't leave the karakol because of it. Maybe in Tunceli merkez (I'm not aware of that) but not in the smaller towns. I wish there wouldn't be so much tension in the region in general because it's such a beautiful with rich cultural values.
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Why are you reluctant to discuss? Is there something wrong with Turkish Army? Are you a citizen of Turkish Republic?
If u say people in Tunceli hate Turkish Army, it will sure understood like that...If the events u mentioned about the events which happen in small towns of Tunceli, this not the shame of Turkish Army but the politicians who became slave to exterior forces.
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28 Apr 2007 Sat 08:46 pm |
A visual treat and beautiful music. Thanks for sharing this wonderful video clip.
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28 Apr 2007 Sat 10:04 pm |
Quoting armegon: Quoting azade:
I'm reluctant to discuss my own view on the army, and there's nothing in my post above that was pointed negatively towards it. And by no means are people in Tunceli terrorists, I'm well aware of that. I read that there are an estimated 350 terrorists spending the winter in the mountains there, but anyway my comment was simply directed at the fact that there seems to be some tension between the general population and the army. I think it's a shame. But unfortunately it indeed true that soldiers normally can't leave the karakol because of it. Maybe in Tunceli merkez (I'm not aware of that) but not in the smaller towns. I wish there wouldn't be so much tension in the region in general because it's such a beautiful with rich cultural values.
Anyway I'm not trying to raise a touchy subject  |
Why are you reluctant to discuss? Is there something wrong with Turkish Army? Are you a citizen of Turkish Republic?
If u say people in Tunceli hate Turkish Army, it will sure understood like that...If the events u mentioned about the events which happen in small towns of Tunceli, this not the shame of Turkish Army but the politicians who became slave to exterior forces. |
How about killing and exiling the half of the population in 1938. Please do not speak without facts.
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28 Apr 2007 Sat 10:20 pm |
Quoting ruthless87:
How about killing and exiling the half of the population in 1938. Please do not speak without facts. |
Please, please tell us the facts that u mentioned to happen in 1938. You mean the time of Kemal Atatürk , do you mean Atatürk killed people and exiled them.
Who are you? If there had occured a rebellion against republic, sure it was beaten down, every country does this to protect its safety. I suppose it was organized by English using religious sensitivity.
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28 Apr 2007 Sat 10:32 pm |
ruthless87, bilader şaka mısın sen? Kaybol... Atatürk'e hakaret edecen bir de burada yazı yazacan...
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28 Apr 2007 Sat 10:34 pm |
Quoting armegon: ruthless87, bilader şaka mısın sen? Kaybol... Atatürk'e hakaret edecen bir de burada yazı yazacan... |
Translate in English please, that's the main language. Then we all understand what your point is.
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28 Apr 2007 Sat 10:38 pm |
Quoting Trudy: Quoting armegon: ruthless87, bilader şaka mısın sen? Kaybol... Atatürk'e hakaret edecen bir de burada yazı yazacan... |
Translate in English please, that's the main language. Then we all understand what your point is. |
It's not pretty in english :-S
Anyway arkadaşlar please calm down there's no need to get upset
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28 Apr 2007 Sat 10:38 pm |
Quoting Trudy: Quoting armegon: ruthless87, bilader şaka mısın sen? Kaybol... Atatürk'e hakaret edecen bir de burada yazı yazacan... |
Translate in English please, that's the main language. Then we all understand what your point is. |
it is a comment to ruthless87, he can understand this what i wrote..
if u want, sure ill translate...
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29 Apr 2007 Sun 05:49 pm |
Quoting armegon: Quoting Trudy: Quoting armegon: ruthless87, bilader şaka mısın sen? Kaybol... Atatürk'e hakaret edecen bir de burada yazı yazacan... |
Translate in English please, that's the main language. Then we all understand what your point is. |
it is a comment to ruthless87, he can understand this what i wrote..
if u want, sure ill translate... |
he told me to get lost because i somehow without using the word Ataturk said something bad at Ataturk. I didn't joke and there were no uprisings in 1938. it was earlier i think.
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29 Apr 2007 Sun 06:09 pm |
Quoting ruthless87: he told me to get lost because i somehow without using the word Ataturk said something bad at Ataturk. I didn't joke and there were no uprisings in 1938. it was earlier i think. |
Then who was the president of Republic of Türkiye in 1938?Answer this... What were those then if it was not a rebellion? Who killed and exiled that people?Where did these events take place? Answer...
i do not say u made a joke, i said 'are you a joke?', read well first...
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29 Apr 2007 Sun 07:43 pm |
This was a nicely started thread, but it turned into an aggressive political/ideological discussion which is not allowed on this website. I am locking this thread.
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