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1.       LuckyLuc
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 01 May 2007 Tue 01:34 am

-erek veya -arak

what does it mean exactly? I have a feeleing that it doesn'T have an exact translation but if someone could try....

Thanks

2.       Quasimodo
0 posts
 01 May 2007 Tue 01:42 am

Simply corresponds to "(by) verb + ing".

verb stem + erek/arak

e.g. you can operate the machine by pushing this button.
Bu düğmeye basarak makineyi çalıştırabilirsin.

bas (verb stem of "basmak") + arak

more examples:

yürü-y-erek = (by) walking
gülümse-y-erek = (by) smiling
biçimle-y-erek = (by) formatting

3.       Quasimodo
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 01 May 2007 Tue 02:03 am

By the way, if you asked just "olarak", it has a different meaning and function on its own.

olarak : as

e.g. bir açıklama olarak = as an explanation
biz insanlar olarak = we as human beings

4.       LuckyLuc
28 posts
 01 May 2007 Tue 02:23 am

Thanks quasimodo, so quick!

5.       Quasimodo
0 posts
 01 May 2007 Tue 02:25 am

Don't mention it.

6.       natiypuspi
436 posts
 01 May 2007 Tue 02:31 am

If you want to read more about -erek/-arak gerund, go here:

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_6_9863

7.       Quasimodo
0 posts
 01 May 2007 Tue 02:39 am

Quoting natiypuspi:

-erek/-arak gerund



Right!

8.       natiypuspi
436 posts
 01 May 2007 Tue 02:52 am

Quoting Quasimodo:

Quoting natiypuspi:

-erek/-arak gerund



Neither in Turkish nor in English it functions as "gerund", but it is "participle".


But if you search for it in WinMekMak, it says "gerund".
The turkish participles are -mış, -ar/-er, -en/-an, -dık and -ecek/-acak.

9.       Quasimodo
0 posts
 01 May 2007 Tue 01:32 pm

In turkish, you put the suffix "-me/ma" immediately after a verb stem to form gerund. (in which case the construction turns to be the same as "negative imperative".)

example : bil (verb stem of "bilmek") + me

bilme = knowing

No idea about WinMekMak, but there is a simple test to identify if a (confusing) construction is in gerund or participle form. If you can use it in place of noun in a sentence, then it is gerund, otherwise participle.

"Yüzme güzel bir etkinliktir."
Swimming is a nice activity.

10.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 01 May 2007 Tue 03:50 pm

Tek tek basaraktan
Bade süzerekten
İnci dizerekten
Gel canım, gel amman...

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