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1.       catwoman
8933 posts
 31 May 2007 Thu 06:56 pm

I found a pretty good web site, that finally feels like a more objective source with regards to human sexuality.
I would like to share a few paragraphs here:

'In the meantime, this patriarchal system has, of course, been somewhat modified. Some of its worst excesses have been corrected, but, as women well realize, in principle it has survived to this very day. Indeed, it is still defended by many men as 'natural' and inevitable. As proof, they point to a great deal of historical and anthropological evidence which seems to show patriarchy as a universal institution dating back to the earliest ages. However, within the last hundred years this view has repeatedly been challenged by various scholars who claimed that, in some distant past, all of mankind lived under a more benign and humane system of matriarchy ('mother rule'), and that our patriarchal culture is but a sorry deviation from the healthy order of things.

The fight against sexual inequality thus became a fight for a more just, more humane society. By freeing themselves, women would also free their oppressors. This basic feminist belief was, over the years, articulated again and again, but it was perhaps best summarized early in the 19th century by the French social utopist Charles Fourier who had said: 'The degree of emancipation of women is the natural measure of general emancipation.'

In traditionally patriarchal societies any improvement in the status of women has far-reaching consequences and produces fundamental political changes. Therefore it is always resisted by the established powers. However, it seems certain that they will ultimately have to relent, because the emancipation of women is both necessary and desirable. It will provide for a greater degree of social justice and thus benefit everyone. Indeed, from the beginning, the great 'feminists' or champions of women's rights have always insisted that they worked in the interest of the whole human race. The feminist movement therefore has always been a humanist movement. Some of its representatives were reformers, others revolutionaries, but virtually all of them worked for a better, more equitable, and more humane world. Much can be learned from their experiences. They often suffered ridicule, persecution, and defeat, but also won admiration, support, and victory. Gradually, they achieved many of their goals. Their opponents, on the other hand, learned that a just cause cannot be suppressed forever. Where needed reforms are consistently blocked, revolution becomes inevitable.'

The Double Standard

2.       libralady
5152 posts
 01 Jun 2007 Fri 03:00 pm

Sorry Catwoman but all this feminist stuff and women rights is getting rather tiresome in my opinion. I think you made your point more than once - some agree and some don't and it seems to cause more arguments than enough.

3.       catwoman
8933 posts
 01 Jun 2007 Fri 07:30 pm

Quoting libralady:

Sorry Catwoman but all this feminist stuff and women rights is getting rather tiresome in my opinion. I think you made your point more than once - some agree and some don't and it seems to cause more arguments than enough.


I definitely see your point Libralady, but I didn't think it's THAT bad! I just really liked this web site and wanted to share. I hope there was SOMEBODY who liked it...

4.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 01 Jun 2007 Fri 09:19 pm

the subject of opressed, beaten, murdered women never can be tiresome.
you have two options: you stand up against it or you ignore and pretend things are alright.
the other thing you can be completly blind and deaf so that you dont truly see and hear.

the website has written my mind.
thanks catwoman

5.       KeithL
1455 posts
 01 Jun 2007 Fri 11:47 pm

I think what libralady's point "might" have been is that, nobody at this site is in favor of oppressing women. The people that need to hear this message are the ones that don't care. This website might not be that venue is all she is saying. maybe.

6.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 02 Jun 2007 Sat 01:17 am

Quoting KeithL:

I think what libralady's point "might" have been is that, nobody at this site is in favor of oppressing women. The people that need to hear this message are the ones that don't care. This website might not be that venue is all she is saying. maybe.


maybe

7.       KeithL
1455 posts
 02 Jun 2007 Sat 05:54 am

8.       libralady
5152 posts
 02 Jun 2007 Sat 12:52 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

the subject of opressed, beaten, murdered women never can be tiresome.
you have two options: you stand up against it or you ignore and pretend things are alright.
the other thing you can be completly blind and deaf so that you dont truly see and hear.

the website has written my mind.
thanks catwoman




What I am staying is that I am tired of seeing the same message continually posted here which then results in an argument.

9.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 02 Jun 2007 Sat 04:44 pm

Quoting libralady:



What I am staying is that I am tired of seeing the same message continually posted here which then results in an argument.


simply, dont read.

10.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 02 Jun 2007 Sat 04:49 pm

Quoting KeithL:

I think what libralady's point "might" have been is that, nobody at this site is in favor of oppressing women. The people that need to hear this message are the ones that don't care. This website might not be that venue is all she is saying. maybe.


you "maybe" right here 100% AGAIN. and i enjoy reading your posts that are always to the point. may God bless you!
you're right, they dont care.

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