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06 Jun 2007 Wed 11:37 pm |
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Quoting azade: Regardless if it's true or not - from a legal point of view I don't understand how they they can simply enter another country. |
do iraq citizens (PKK) have right to enter another country and kill innocent people???
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06 Jun 2007 Wed 11:43 pm |
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Quoting KeithL: Quoting azade: Regardless if it's true or not - from a legal point of view I don't understand how they they can simply enter another country. |
The Iraqi Kurds you mean? Me neither.... |
 Those too..I mean there is so much security there, they must have some kind of death wish.
But I was talking about the army as well, it's pretty much the same as the example leander is making below:
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I also don't understand why Denmark sent troops to Iraq for instance , other than proving its loyalty to US.
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Me neither.
A large part of the population didn't support it either.
As to the rest of your post I understand the point you're making. Surely a country should legally have the right to defend itself if it's being attacked. Still it's not the country of Iraq that's attacking Turkey, and it's not the kurds, it's some terrorists. That's why I think they should do it through a coalition with NATO.
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06 Jun 2007 Wed 11:45 pm |
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Quoting Lapinkulta: Quoting azade: Regardless if it's true or not - from a legal point of view I don't understand how they they can simply enter another country. |
do iraq citizens (PKK) have right to enter another country and kill innocent people??? |
No they don't, but they also don't act on behalf of a country.
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06 Jun 2007 Wed 11:57 pm |
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Quoting azade: Quoting Lapinkulta: Quoting azade: Regardless if it's true or not - from a legal point of view I don't understand how they they can simply enter another country. |
do iraq citizens (PKK) have right to enter another country and kill innocent people??? |
No they don't, but they also don't act on behalf of a country. |
yeah but Iraq did not fullfill its obligation of not harbouring these terrorists groups although they were warned constantly.they didn't raise a finger.
And Turkeys operation will be limited to PKK groups there,they re not gonna wage war agianst Iraq and stay there.So its in complieance with the UN chart.
C-the action taken by way of self-defence is limited to what is necessary to stop or prevent the infringement, i.e. to the needs of defence…
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07 Jun 2007 Thu 12:09 am |
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Quoting leander: Quoting azade: Quoting Lapinkulta: Quoting azade: Regardless if it's true or not - from a legal point of view I don't understand how they they can simply enter another country. |
do iraq citizens (PKK) have right to enter another country and kill innocent people??? |
No they don't, but they also don't act on behalf of a country. |
yeah but Iraq did not fullfill its obligation of not harbouring these terrorists groups although they were warned constantly.they didn't raise a finger.
And Turkeys operation will be limited to PKK groups there,they re not gonna wage war agianst Iraq and stay there.So its in complieance with the UN chart.
C-the action taken by way of self-defence is limited to what is necessary to stop or prevent the infringement, i.e. to the needs of defence…
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Iraq is a mess right now, they don't have resources to hunt down terrorists. And Saddam was too busy murdering the regular kurds.
But if what the army is doing can be justified through international laws then I'm all for it. The presence of the army in south eastern Turkey, caused by the terrorists of course, is making life a living hell for regular kurds as well.
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07 Jun 2007 Thu 01:14 am |
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Quoting Lapinkulta: Quoting azade: Regardless if it's true or not - from a legal point of view I don't understand how they they can simply enter another country. |
do iraq citizens (PKK) have right to enter another country and kill innocent people??? |
(PKK)is not iraq citizens and Kurdish region in Iraq would not tolerate the existence of the PKK
the report of Daily News Turkish said that official high-level Iraqi arrived ankara in an effort to improve bilateral relations between Turkey and the EU. The report said that official high-level Iraqi stressed to the Turkish officials that his party is ready to eliminate all factors that pose a threat to Turkey
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07 Jun 2007 Thu 07:06 pm |
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Quoting elham: dear Leander we know the war is not a against Iraq ,and Turkey have a right to apply article 51 -c of the UN Charter to defend itself , but we fear the war maybe will continue and include innocent not the terrorists ,as happened in Baghdad |
I understand your point elham.I also think that millitary action should be the last resort.There are other cards Turkey can play in the political arena to pressure US and Barzani to cleanse the area from PKK camps and millitants.Like closing Harbur ...and Incirlik if necessary.
But i guess that would take a government with a spine, who doesn't count on US to stay in power.
And azade, its nothing to do with Barzanis not having the resourses to take action against PKK, it has everything to do with not willing to do it.Barzani and Northern Iraq is very rich unlike the rest of Iraq,they get the oil plus a lot of aid for being the only ally of US in Iraq, the whole place is being rebuilt.Barzani even bought the 'Tatilya' which was in Turkey (a mini version of Disneyland) and brought it to Northern Iraq.Go figure.His personal fortune only, is around 2 billion dolars.
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07 Jun 2007 Thu 07:31 pm |
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I dont care about these all.I care about innocent ppl who were killed by PKK...PKK must be destroye by army or other ways...I dont belive in barzani and talabani... When they were in trouble in iraq, Turkey had helped them and their kurdish nation...but I think barzani and talabani hadnt deserved that kind of help and friendship from Turkey in that time..so I started to think that saddam was right to send talabani and barzani,all these ppl out of country...
another point is that, what would happen if an european soldier had been killed by same way...think what have happened after el qaide killed innocent ppl in USA...So thousands were killed in Turkey...!!!!it is our right to show more strict action ..
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07 Jun 2007 Thu 07:41 pm |
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My dear Lapinkulta, you are right about the innocent people... I am a kurd from Iraq and 100% against what PKK doing. Also against all other titles of war and killing civil people. But you are not right about Saddam, Barzani and Talabani.. Because I think they are the devil brothers of the same bloody family.
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07 Jun 2007 Thu 09:20 pm |
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ohhhhhhh, serdar !!!!!!
we all know saddam is the devil himself not son of him
but Barzani and Talabani...........??!!
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07 Jun 2007 Thu 09:54 pm |
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yes,, the lovely daughter of Iraq ... all want to kill the beautiful Baghdad and the beautiful Iraq!!!
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