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What do you like about this site
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 04:12 am |
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As I have already explained I am not a moderator of this forum. Every other moderator is free to indicate their opinions so why must I be bereaved of this right?
Teaschip, you are an advocate of a discourse I find disgusting. I feel free to criticize you, as you may have noticed yourself, I am posting lengthy messages indicating my opinions. Apoligies for the remarks you found offensive.
I find your entire point of view highly offensive. We surely don't need people to bully us, ridicule our values and expect obedience in exchange of money. We simply don't work this way.
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 04:21 am |
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Quoting vineyards: As I have already explained I am not a moderator of this forum. Every other moderator is free to indicate their opinions so why must I be bereaved of this right?
Teaschip, you are an advocate of a discourse I find disgusting. I feel free to criticize you, as you may have noticed yourself, I am posting lengthy messages indicating my opinions. Apoligies for the remarks you found offensive.
I find your entire point of view highly offensive. We surely don't need people to bully us, ridicule our values and expect obedience in exchange of money. We simply don't work this way. |
Well when you state "put your money where your mouth is", that's the response your going to get. I do have a problem
with Turkey accepting money from the U.S. then the U.S.asking to use their airspace and being denied. It's like paying an employee, but they refuse to do the work. There is always a price when dealing with politicians. It's called supply and demand. Whether it's right or wrong you can only be the judge of it. I'm sorry you find it offensive.
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 04:25 am |
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Teaschip, we are people... We are not commodity. I will not victimize my son to protect your interests for any money. You can't buy us at least not me; understand this.
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 04:28 am |
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Quoting teaschip1: It's like paying an employee, but they refuse to do the work. |
I wouldn't also expect anything less from your response teas 
İf you dont find this offensive,what is it in your opinion?!
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 04:30 am |
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Quoting vineyards: Teaschip, we are people... We are not commodity. I will not victimize my son to protect your interests for any money. You can't buy us at least not me; understand this.
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I understand your position and respect it as well. I realize the Turks are people. Again, my problem is YOUR government is so willingly to take our goverments money. Then we ask to use their airspace and was denied. We weren't asking for Turkey to fight with us in Iraq, just to use their airspace.
Then Turkey decides to invade Northern Iraq and WE still give Turkey intelligence. So it appears to me, that we view Turkey as an alley, however by example it raises doubts to me how loyal Turkey is to the U.S.
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 04:31 am |
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Quoting CANLI: Quoting teaschip1: It's like paying an employee, but they refuse to do the work. |
I wouldn't also expect anything less from your response teas
İf you dont find this offensive,what is it in your opinion?!
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It was an example Canli. So we should give millions and millions to Turkey out of the goodness of our heart?
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 04:32 am |
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I am not sure what exactly you are talking about, but I do think that if you are taking money from someone, you are part of the problem. Of course not everything can be purchased and Turkey can always deny US requests, but I don't think that Turkey can claim that they are completely free of any faults. If someone offers them money and they accept it, it's only them to be blamed.
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 04:34 am |
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Quoting teaschip1: I understand your position and respect it as well. I realize the Turks are people. Again, my problem is YOUR government is so willingly to take our goverments money. Then we ask to use their airspace and was denied. We weren't asking for Turkey to fight with us in Iraq, just to use their airspace.
Then Turkey decides to invade Northern Iraq and WE still give Turkey intelligence. So it appears to me, that we view Turkey as an alley, however by example it raises doubts to me how loyal Turkey is to the U.S. |
I think that Turkey doesn't have any obligations to be loyal to the US. US is not loyal to anybody either, they are only following their own self interest. Turkey has the right to do the same thing.
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 04:36 am |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting teaschip1: I understand your position and respect it as well. I realize the Turks are people. Again, my problem is YOUR government is so willingly to take our goverments money. Then we ask to use their airspace and was denied. We weren't asking for Turkey to fight with us in Iraq, just to use their airspace.
Then Turkey decides to invade Northern Iraq and WE still give Turkey intelligence. So it appears to me, that we view Turkey as an alley, however by example it raises doubts to me how loyal Turkey is to the U.S. |
I think that Turkey doesn't have any obligations to be loyal to the US. US is not loyal to anybody either, they are only following their own self interest. Turkey has the right to do the same thing. |
I agree and I also think we should stop sending these countries aid and put money where it goes to good use like finding a cure for cancer and helping people who are starving in deprived countries.
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 04:37 am |
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Quoting teaschip1: Quoting vineyards: Teaschip, we are people... We are not commodity. I will not victimize my son to protect your interests for any money. You can't buy us at least not me; understand this.
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I understand your position and respect it as well. I realize the Turks are people. Again, my problem is YOUR government is so willingly to take our goverments money. Then we ask to use their airspace and was denied. We weren't asking for Turkey to fight with us in Iraq, just to use their airspace.
Then Turkey decides to invade Northern Iraq and WE still give Turkey intelligence. So it appears to me, that we view Turkey as an alley, however by example it raises doubts to me how loyal Turkey is to the U.S. |
Your government is not giving as much money as you think they do dear. On the contrary, your government always makes more money than what it gives through usury, we keep paying the interest of the debt we received years ago. An American friend of mine, indicated utter surprize when he heard the ridiculous amount the US granted Turkey as relief aid after a major earthquake in 1999, he said I am ashamed of my government.
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 04:38 am |
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Quoting teaschip1: Quoting CANLI: Quoting teaschip1: It's like paying an employee, but they refuse to do the work. |
I wouldn't also expect anything less from your response teas
İf you dont find this offensive,what is it in your opinion?!
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It was an example Canli. So we should give millions and millions to Turkey out of the goodness of our heart? |
Of course not,because its an old story none will believe it anymore
But actually,you have taken many benefits out of it also,and that doesnt mean you have Turkey as your slave or anything a good obedient one in return to your money !
You wanted her to help you in attacking her neighbour in a war least we can say about it NOT FAİR,and you blame her for refusing ?!
Actually,im proud by Turkey for doing so !
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