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31 May 2005 Tue 09:57 pm |
I am wondering what you all think of this site. I would like to share my thoughts about it.
Firstly, I think it is wonderful. I have made some very good friends on this site. Generally people are friendly, decent people who are always ready to help and exchange opinions. I like the fact that so many people are from other countries. I feel that I have learned so much about other cultures from reading postings in the forums and from the friendships I have made.
There is a real feeling of solidarity here too. Ok so there are some heated debates go on in the forums, and sometimes it gets a little contentious, when different ways of expression lose the true meaning. Remembering of course that for many people English is not their first language!
The fact that all the postings are in English and this is not the mother tongue of so many members is truly awesome (to use a word a good friend of mine is very fond of - you know who you are!) - the level of discussion just proves the genius of all of you! To have deep discussions about God, death, love etc in a language that is not your own is wonderful - congratulations to all of you. I am always soooo impressed by anyone who can speak another language, but to do it with humour, introspection and great intellect is fantastic. I hope this doesn't sound patronising, it is not meant to. I am trying to express my admiration for my class mates!
The site itself seems 'cosy' - that is to say small enough for everyone to get to know each other. It feels like a classroom, with a great mix of students. The messaging is excellent as is the chat rooms. I have been in the chat room when someone quite revolting 'crashed' in and started being offensive and swearing. Everyone else rallied together and he/she soon went away - solidarity amongst the class mates!
The Turkish learning part of the site is fantastic! Apart from using it on line, I have printed off many of the lessons to study away from my computer. I have looked at many sites and this is comparable in quality and teaching standards to any of the others. I have learned much from this.
The newish dictionary is also very good. Then there are the links - I love the Turkish recipes and have learned so much about Turkish culture from links provided by the site.
i once mentioned to Admin, that it would be good to be able to read the private message you were replying to and just only 1 day later it was provided ! BRAVO! Admin.
Erdem is terrific. Translations big and small seem to be no problem for him and he is always polite, friendly and gets back to you quickly.
I love the fact that you can look at member profiles and post your own pictures if you want to, and i love the way you can start a discussion about anything you want and someone will respond! It is also quite comforting to log on in the night time and see a collection of familiar names also logged on. You can find a friend here any time of the day or night.
So that is what I think of the site. I can't think of anything negative to say, or anything that could be better, but I'm pretty sure that suggestions for improving the site would be favoured by Admin. I also like the fact that there are no darn 'pop ups' - and that the advertising on the site is there if you want it rather than 'in your face' all the time.
Thank you Admin, I know you are on holiday, but I'm guessing you'll look at your site from time to time! Thanks to everyone on the site who makes it what it is.
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31 May 2005 Tue 11:41 pm |
Hello Lyndie! You expressed everything I would say about site and people here.You are right.Even I am here not for long time, but I am amazed. I feel like in a big family. When you fill blue you can come here to cheer up. I made many friends already.I want to take this opportunity to thank Admin , Erdem for great job , and all of you, guys being part of family.
Good luck to everyone.
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01 Jun 2005 Wed 01:07 am |
Thanks Bliss,
I'm glad you feel the same way too. I hope (I think) many others do also.
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01 Jun 2005 Wed 01:40 am |
You are very welcome, Lyndie!
It was from the bottom of my heart.
I think evryone feels same way, as we do.
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01 Jun 2005 Wed 03:31 am |
what you said is just so right!!! everytime I don't really know what to do or I feel sad I come here and read others experiences and it makes me grow... like you said for some person english is not the first language... so I wanna learn turk and in the same time I improve my english! It's really good. Everybody here is so kind! I can feel either this like family! thanks to all!!!
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01 Jun 2005 Wed 02:17 pm |
Lyndie, what can I say - you said it all exactly the way it is. We love this site!
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04 Apr 2008 Fri 02:02 am |
This site has undergone so many changes since its creation... it would be interesting to hear people's opinion about it now .
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04 Apr 2008 Fri 11:05 am |
Quoting catwoman: This site has undergone so many changes since its creation... it would be interesting to hear people's opinion about it now . |
Ah nostalgia! This site has certainly changed since Lyndie painted the rosy picture above.The bullies and spoilers have done their job. There is not the same respect for the other persons point of view.You only have to look at the names on the deleted list to see that something has happened.I don't mean the bullies and egotists I'm talking about the likes of Elisa,bliss,duda,slavica and Trudy.Also Erdem has resigned. Although I still look in occasionally I no longer find this site addictive.
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04 Apr 2008 Fri 06:40 pm |
I still like this site. I have been a member for about 2 years now. It may not be all warm and fuzzy the way it was when it first started but I think some important cultural dialogues take place here. Maybe they are not all pleasant and nice but I think this site is helping people to get out feelings that we all feel in this modern world of turmoil. This site is a small reflection of a larger world. Sometimes the view of the world is peaceful and hopeful...sometimes it is dark and violent. That is the current nature of life on this planet, isn't it?
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 02:54 am |
I like this site always have until recently. The changes that were made to fullfill Keith's depression now has resulted in two mods who clearly have never been in the business world or any type of leadership role. As a result, less interesting topics, abusive and harrassing comments from these two individuals.
Just my thoughts.
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 03:31 am |
Quoting teaschip1: I like this site always have until recently. The changes that were made to fullfill Keith's depression now has resulted in two mods who clearly have never been in the business world or any type of leadership role. As a result, less interesting topics, abusive and harrassing comments from these two individuals.
Just my thoughts. |
I don't see this being the case teaschip. The site is more calm now then it has been before and I think Keith is doing a fine job as a moderator. I think that you simply have a personal dislike towards him and that affects the way you judge him as a moderator.
I also disagree with him on many issues, but I can still say that as a mod, he's very liberal and tolerant. He hasn't deleted even one post yet (as far as I know), he hasn't even been warning anybody. I really don't see what he has done wrong. I think you should provide some evidence when you make such accusations.
There were always abusive nationalists here, of similar mindset as the ones that are active right now. We are trying to be as objective in moderating as possible, but if you think we're missing something, feel free to let someone know.
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 03:37 am |
Quoting catwoman: Quoting teaschip1: I like this site always have until recently. The changes that were made to fullfill Keith's depression now has resulted in two mods who clearly have never been in the business world or any type of leadership role. As a result, less interesting topics, abusive and harrassing comments from these two individuals.
Just my thoughts. |
I don't see this being the case teaschip. The site is more calm now then it has been before and I think Keith is doing a fine job as a moderator. I think that you simply have a personal dislike towards him and that affects the way you judge him as a moderator.
I also disagree with him on many issues, but I can still say that as a mod, he's very liberal and tolerant. He hasn't deleted even one post yet (as far as I know), he hasn't even been warning anybody. I really don't see what he has done wrong. I think you should provide some evidence when you make such accusations.
There were always abusive nationalists here, of similar mindset as the ones that are active right now. We are trying to be as objective in moderating as possible, but if you think we're missing something, feel free to let someone know. |
I think you need to go back then and look at his posts towards me. Rude..Childish..Immature..not to mention when I post something even if he disagrees as a mod there should be some form of tact used constructively. Not sarcastic comments like "Nice cut and Paste". As well as vineyards "So who sucks now". "if you were a mod this site would be more in tune with the high school atmosphere" If you don't find that as being insulting, then I guess you have different standards than I.
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 03:40 am |
Quoting teaschip1: I think you need to go back then and look at his posts towards me. Rude..Childish..Immature..not to mention when I post something even if he disagrees as a mod there should be some form of tact used constructively. Not sarcastic comments like "Nice cut and Paste". As well as vineyards "So who sucks now". "if you were a mod this site would be more in tune with the high school atmosphere" If you don't find that as being insulting, then I guess you have different standards than I. |
Sorry teaschip, I haven't seen all of these comments and you are certainly right that they are not right. I definitely think this is something to address with them, it does look like it's a personal issue for Keith as well.
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 03:44 am |
Quoting catwoman: Quoting teaschip1: I think you need to go back then and look at his posts towards me. Rude..Childish..Immature..not to mention when I post something even if he disagrees as a mod there should be some form of tact used constructively. Not sarcastic comments like "Nice cut and Paste". As well as vineyards "So who sucks now". "if you were a mod this site would be more in tune with the high school atmosphere" If you don't find that as being insulting, then I guess you have different standards than I. |
Sorry teaschip, I haven't seen all of these comments and you are certainly right that they are not right. I definitely think this is something to address with them, it does look like it's a personal issue for Keith as well. |
I would like for the both of them to leave me alone. Unless, of course I am out of line or breaking the rules. Then discipline me. But don't make me feel like they are two bulleys after me. That's how I'm starting to feel here.
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 03:46 am |
Quoting teaschip1: I would like for the both of them to leave me alone. Unless, of course I am out of line or breaking the rules. Then discipline me. But don't make me feel like they are two bulleys after me. That's how I'm starting to feel here. |
That is definitely what it has to be like. I will talk to Keith about it.
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 03:48 am |
Teaschip I am not a moderator of this particular forum. Moderators are free to post their opinions. The difference between your tone and ours is that you mainly harass by implying and we are a bit more straight forward.
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 03:55 am |
Quoting vineyards: Teaschip I am not a moderator of this particular forum. Moderators are free to post their opinions. The difference between your tone and ours is that you mainly harass by implying and we are a bit more straight forward. |
Whatever kind of harassment it is, we tried to agree that it's not ok for us. We are trying to make this a more friendly web site, while allowing all topics to be discussed. Please stop harassing each other in any way you think you are doing it. If you disagree, just disagree without any personal remarks.
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 03:57 am |
Quoting vineyards: Teaschip I am not a moderator of this particular forum. Moderators are free to post their opinions. The difference between your tone and ours is that you mainly harass by implying and we are a bit more straight forward. |
I don't understand this at all. Implying? It really doesn't matter. It appears you don't care for me, which is fine. I thought my post back to you about the Korean War was constructive and no where abusive. Then I get a smart ass response from Keith.
You actually brought up a very good topic and made me want to research it more. So, I thank you for that. However, I get frustrated when I get "Nice cut and Paste" from Keith.
Almost, like he was wanting to provoke an argument.
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 04:04 am |
Quoting teaschip1: You actually brought up a very good topic and made me want to research it more. So, I thank you for that. However, I get frustrated when I get "Nice cut and Paste" from Keith.
Almost, like he was wanting to provoke an argument. |
Yes, that was rather strange. Completely discrediting everything you said without any constructive argument. It was rather mean and condescending.
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 04:12 am |
As I have already explained I am not a moderator of this forum. Every other moderator is free to indicate their opinions so why must I be bereaved of this right?
Teaschip, you are an advocate of a discourse I find disgusting. I feel free to criticize you, as you may have noticed yourself, I am posting lengthy messages indicating my opinions. Apoligies for the remarks you found offensive.
I find your entire point of view highly offensive. We surely don't need people to bully us, ridicule our values and expect obedience in exchange of money. We simply don't work this way.
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 04:21 am |
Quoting vineyards: As I have already explained I am not a moderator of this forum. Every other moderator is free to indicate their opinions so why must I be bereaved of this right?
Teaschip, you are an advocate of a discourse I find disgusting. I feel free to criticize you, as you may have noticed yourself, I am posting lengthy messages indicating my opinions. Apoligies for the remarks you found offensive.
I find your entire point of view highly offensive. We surely don't need people to bully us, ridicule our values and expect obedience in exchange of money. We simply don't work this way. |
Well when you state "put your money where your mouth is", that's the response your going to get. I do have a problem
with Turkey accepting money from the U.S. then the U.S.asking to use their airspace and being denied. It's like paying an employee, but they refuse to do the work. There is always a price when dealing with politicians. It's called supply and demand. Whether it's right or wrong you can only be the judge of it. I'm sorry you find it offensive.
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 04:25 am |
Teaschip, we are people... We are not commodity. I will not victimize my son to protect your interests for any money. You can't buy us at least not me; understand this.
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 04:28 am |
Quoting teaschip1: It's like paying an employee, but they refuse to do the work. |
I wouldn't also expect anything less from your response teas
İf you dont find this offensive,what is it in your opinion?!
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 04:30 am |
Quoting vineyards: Teaschip, we are people... We are not commodity. I will not victimize my son to protect your interests for any money. You can't buy us at least not me; understand this.
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I understand your position and respect it as well. I realize the Turks are people. Again, my problem is YOUR government is so willingly to take our goverments money. Then we ask to use their airspace and was denied. We weren't asking for Turkey to fight with us in Iraq, just to use their airspace.
Then Turkey decides to invade Northern Iraq and WE still give Turkey intelligence. So it appears to me, that we view Turkey as an alley, however by example it raises doubts to me how loyal Turkey is to the U.S.
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 04:31 am |
Quoting CANLI: Quoting teaschip1: It's like paying an employee, but they refuse to do the work. |
I wouldn't also expect anything less from your response teas
İf you dont find this offensive,what is it in your opinion?!
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It was an example Canli. So we should give millions and millions to Turkey out of the goodness of our heart?
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 04:32 am |
I am not sure what exactly you are talking about, but I do think that if you are taking money from someone, you are part of the problem. Of course not everything can be purchased and Turkey can always deny US requests, but I don't think that Turkey can claim that they are completely free of any faults. If someone offers them money and they accept it, it's only them to be blamed.
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 04:34 am |
Quoting teaschip1: I understand your position and respect it as well. I realize the Turks are people. Again, my problem is YOUR government is so willingly to take our goverments money. Then we ask to use their airspace and was denied. We weren't asking for Turkey to fight with us in Iraq, just to use their airspace.
Then Turkey decides to invade Northern Iraq and WE still give Turkey intelligence. So it appears to me, that we view Turkey as an alley, however by example it raises doubts to me how loyal Turkey is to the U.S. |
I think that Turkey doesn't have any obligations to be loyal to the US. US is not loyal to anybody either, they are only following their own self interest. Turkey has the right to do the same thing.
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 04:36 am |
Quoting catwoman: Quoting teaschip1: I understand your position and respect it as well. I realize the Turks are people. Again, my problem is YOUR government is so willingly to take our goverments money. Then we ask to use their airspace and was denied. We weren't asking for Turkey to fight with us in Iraq, just to use their airspace.
Then Turkey decides to invade Northern Iraq and WE still give Turkey intelligence. So it appears to me, that we view Turkey as an alley, however by example it raises doubts to me how loyal Turkey is to the U.S. |
I think that Turkey doesn't have any obligations to be loyal to the US. US is not loyal to anybody either, they are only following their own self interest. Turkey has the right to do the same thing. |
I agree and I also think we should stop sending these countries aid and put money where it goes to good use like finding a cure for cancer and helping people who are starving in deprived countries.
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 04:37 am |
Quoting teaschip1: Quoting vineyards: Teaschip, we are people... We are not commodity. I will not victimize my son to protect your interests for any money. You can't buy us at least not me; understand this.
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I understand your position and respect it as well. I realize the Turks are people. Again, my problem is YOUR government is so willingly to take our goverments money. Then we ask to use their airspace and was denied. We weren't asking for Turkey to fight with us in Iraq, just to use their airspace.
Then Turkey decides to invade Northern Iraq and WE still give Turkey intelligence. So it appears to me, that we view Turkey as an alley, however by example it raises doubts to me how loyal Turkey is to the U.S. |
Your government is not giving as much money as you think they do dear. On the contrary, your government always makes more money than what it gives through usury, we keep paying the interest of the debt we received years ago. An American friend of mine, indicated utter surprize when he heard the ridiculous amount the US granted Turkey as relief aid after a major earthquake in 1999, he said I am ashamed of my government.
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 04:38 am |
Quoting teaschip1: Quoting CANLI: Quoting teaschip1: It's like paying an employee, but they refuse to do the work. |
I wouldn't also expect anything less from your response teas
İf you dont find this offensive,what is it in your opinion?!
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It was an example Canli. So we should give millions and millions to Turkey out of the goodness of our heart? |
Of course not,because its an old story none will believe it anymore
But actually,you have taken many benefits out of it also,and that doesnt mean you have Turkey as your slave or anything a good obedient one in return to your money !
You wanted her to help you in attacking her neighbour in a war least we can say about it NOT FAİR,and you blame her for refusing ?!
Actually,im proud by Turkey for doing so !
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 04:39 am |
There are always two sides of the story!
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 04:39 am |
Quoting CANLI: Quoting teaschip1: Quoting CANLI: Quoting teaschip1: It's like paying an employee, but they refuse to do the work. |
I wouldn't also expect anything less from your response teas
İf you dont find this offensive,what is it in your opinion?!
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It was an example Canli. So we should give millions and millions to Turkey out of the goodness of our heart? |
Of course not,because its an old story none will believe it anymore
But actually,you have taken many benefits out of it also,and that doesnt mean you have Turkey as your slave or anything a good obedient one in return to your money !
You wanted her to help you in attacking her neighbour in a war least we can say about it NOT FAİR,and you blame her for refusing ?!
Actually,im proud by Turkye for doing so ! |
and you must be proud of them going into the only stable portion of Iraq.
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 04:42 am |
Quoting teaschip1: and you must be proud of them going into the only stable portion of Iraq. |
Teachip, are you comparing US invading Iraq for NO reason to Turkey attacking PKK bases (and withdrawing quickly after)?
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 04:43 am |
We have been going off topic again actually an excuse to go eat dinner. Feel free to carry on with out me.
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 04:44 am |
I am ashamed of myself for taking you seriously teaschip.
P.S. All she wants is to show off Texas style.
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 04:44 am |
Quoting teaschip1:
and you must be proud of them going into the only stable portion of Iraq. |
You know better than that
And actually yes i do,they are deffending their country's borders there where no one will do,because it is THE ONLY STABLE portion in İraq !
Although having Turkey in the ONLY STABLE portion in İraq serve your interests there,isnt it ?!
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 06:20 am |
Quoting catwoman: Quoting teaschip1: I would like for the both of them to leave me alone. Unless, of course I am out of line or breaking the rules. Then discipline me. But don't make me feel like they are two bulleys after me. That's how I'm starting to feel here. |
That is definitely what it has to be like. I will talk to Keith about it. |
I could make a very long list of personal attacks you have made on people, including me. I find it funny how many times you have typed my name in your posts. So lets not pretend to be so innocent.
Again, I will say, if comparing your post to a cut and paste google search is the worst you are ever spoken about, then you should be lucky. If you wish to continue, I can make a list of all the adjectives and descriptions you have made about me. This is really ridiculous...
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 06:30 am |
Quoting KeithL: Quoting catwoman: Quoting teaschip1: I would like for the both of them to leave me alone. Unless, of course I am out of line or breaking the rules. Then discipline me. But don't make me feel like they are two bulleys after me. That's how I'm starting to feel here. |
That is definitely what it has to be like. I will talk to Keith about it. |
I could make a very long list of personal attacks you have made on people, including me. I find it funny how many times you have typed my name in your posts. So lets not pretend to be so innocent.
Again, I will say, if comparing your post to a cut and paste google search is the worst you are ever spoken about, then you should be lucky. If you wish to continue, I can make a list of all the adjectives and descriptions you have made about me. This is really ridiculous... |
I think this is mutual, both of you have something you could improve especially in communication with each other.
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 06:37 am |
I don't apologize for entering threads where Turkey is unfairly and unnecessarily criticized. I enjoy all Turkey has brought to my life. I am apalled by those that come here only to say bad things about it. I ask you Teaschip, when was the last thing positive you said about Turkey at this site?
I don't call names, I don't question intelligence. But I do stand up for what I believe in. Your leash on what you are allowed to post as compared to me is so much longer. And since being a mod, my leash is even shorter. If you criticize me, expect me to respond. If you criticize Turkey unfairly, expect me to respond. This is so simple.
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 06:51 am |
Quoting KeithL: I don't apologize for entering threads where Turkey is unfairly and unnecessarily criticized. I enjoy all Turkey has brought to my life. I am apalled by those that come here only to say bad things about it. I ask you Teaschip, when was the last thing positive you said about Turkey at this site? |
Keith, I don't think it's a requirement to post in this forum that one has to say good things about Turkey. Just because Turkey has only brought good things to your life, doesn't mean that it has so for everybody else. Nobody wants you to apologize for defending what you believe in, we only don't want to see such personal fights.
Quoting KeithL: I don't call names, I don't question intelligence. But I do stand up for what I believe in. Your leash on what you are allowed to post as compared to me is so much longer. And since being a mod, my leash is even shorter. If you criticize me, expect me to respond. If you criticize Turkey unfairly, expect me to respond. This is so simple. |
As mods, we do need to be an example of how to debate constructively, if we are to enforce these rules on others. There are no problems when you and others disagree and stand up for what they believe in. It's again fights with always the same people that are getting uncomfortable.
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 08:23 am |
Quoting KeithL:
I don't call names, I don't question intelligence. |
Are you saying this this is a recent development?
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 09:57 am |
This is a perfect example of what it is like now on TC!
All topics end up in the same discussion.
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 10:15 am |
Quoting Chantal: This is a perfect example of what it is like now on TC!
All topics end up in the same discussion. |
Are you joining the whiners' club?
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 11:05 am |
Quoting catwoman:
Just because Turkey has only brought good things to your life, doesn't mean that it has so for everybody else. |
If we are honest, we all may have something negative to say about Turkey in some shape or form, from time to time. However, I don't think this site was established as a platform for some people to knock Turkey at will, which is what happens here. I guess the same arguments about Turkish Politics keep surfacing, so people are constantly repeating their views. Let's remember the original intention of the site shall we? If it's out of date then it needs refreshing:
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"What is Turkish Language Class?
This web site is built for teaching Turkish to my love. The idea of building this web site actually came out of the lack of online resources about Turkish. We were searching the Internet to find some useful resources that could be helpful but we couldn't find any good, complete and free web site. We thought that we can do better and share it with the people who have the same problem. It is becoming the proof that love can move mountains.
This site started simple, but it is slowly improving to eventually become an interactive environment for learning the Turkish language. The goal is to have a web site where users study lessons, improve their Turkish language skills, interact with the web site and with each other, get to know people with the same interests, and eventually learn some Turkish while having some fun at the same time. Everything on this site is free, and you can get your free username and password to access the members-only parts of the site.
You want to support this site?
If you like this site and want to support it in some way, the best support would be to help us promote the site. It is really a tough job to make people aware of a web site after putting it online. There are couple ways to do this:
If you have a personal page or a web site, you can give a link to this site.
If there are forums or discussion groups you follow, about Turkey or Turkish language, you can mention Turkish Language Class in one of your messages there.
Or you can upload your Turkey pictures, your personal pictures, your essays using your account control panel. "
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Quoting catwoman: It's again fights with always the same people that are getting uncomfortable. |
I think everyone would agree with this, although the protagonists vary from time to time.
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 11:17 am |
KarpusQ, this declaration was made quite a long time ago. It is still a great resource of learning materials. What you are confusing is the website as it is and its forum. People looking for materials to study have a big choice of lessons at all levels to choose from the menu on the left side. Forum is just a tiny part of this site. If you compare it to the other forum you've joined recently, you'll see that there forum is everything. Here we have essays and galleries next to language resources.
I can't understand why you keep posting here, not there if you find this site so unfriendly. Throughout years here a lot of good things were posted about Turks and Turkey. And majority of people here do like this country. You will see conflicts every time somebody's post is misunderstood. It's normal in every single forum I have seen.
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 04:12 pm |
Quoting teaschip1: Well when you state "put your money where your mouth is", that's the response your going to get. I do have a problem
with Turkey accepting money from the U.S. then the U.S.asking to use their airspace and being denied. It's like paying an employee, but they refuse to do the work. There is always a price when dealing with politicians. It's called supply and demand. Whether it's right or wrong you can only be the judge of it. I'm sorry you find it offensive. |
This is for you Teas:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7Tn_oqOdQ4&watch_response
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 10:50 pm |
Quoting catwoman:
This is for you Teas:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7Tn_oqOdQ4&watch_response
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Excellent link. Sad but true. I love my country, and I just wish we would live up to our Constitution and Bill of Rights.
I wish we would devote more attention to education of our people, healthcare and less on the interests Corporate profits that only benefit a small elite group at the top who do not owe allegence to the constitution or people of the USA.
Read the US Constitution and think about it. I keep a small copy of it on my person at all times.
United States Constitution
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 11:22 pm |
Quoting catwoman: Quoting Chantal: This is a perfect example of what it is like now on TC!
All topics end up in the same discussion. |
Are you joining the whiners' club?  |
Am I? You were the one who opened the discussion again about people's opinion of TC now.. And as soon as I give an answer you blame me for joining the 'whiners' club' ?? What did u expect me to answer?
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 11:30 pm |
I like the lessons only
the forum could be entitled as "Catwoman's forum
Kisses & Wallmarts
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 11:30 pm |
TLC = Turkish Learners Class, so this to me indicates somewhere for non-Turkish to learn Turkish. But the addictiveness of the forum and the soap opera like threads leave you unable to focus your attention on the real reason you joined TLC - unless of course you joined to find yourself a girl friend!
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 11:50 pm |
I think I will need to enter some sort of treatment program if I ever decide to leave. TC Addicts Anonymous?
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07 Apr 2008 Mon 11:58 pm |
Quoting Elisabeth: I think I will need to enter some sort of treatment program if I ever decide to leave. TC Addicts Anonymous? |
Lis, please send me a PM with TCAA's phone number
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08 Apr 2008 Tue 02:24 pm |
Quoting Daydreamer: KarpusQ, this declaration was made quite a long time ago. |
If you read my post, I acknowledged this and suggested the page I quoted may need updating.
Quoting Daydreamer: It is still a great resource of learning materials. |
I didn't say it wasn't and I use those resources
Quoting Daydreamer: What you are confusing is the website as it is and its forum. People looking for materials to study have a big choice of lessons at all levels to choose from the menu on the left side. Forum is just a tiny part of this site. |
I'm not confusing anything. I am a romantic and that page I pasted here persuaded me to join the site. I simply wanted to remind people of the original intention/tone. Sometimes it's a good exercise to step back. As I said before, perhaps that page needs updating . . .to incorporate the Admins's vision of what he intended the purpose of the Forums (atmosphere etc.)
Quoting Daydreamer: If you compare it to the other forum you've joined recently, you'll see that there forum is everything. Here we have essays and galleries next to language resources. |
The other site is not an "instead of" but an extra. I take what I need from these sites and a couple of others.
Quoting Daydreamer: I can't understand why you keep posting here, not there if you find this site so unfriendly. Throughout years here a lot of good things were posted about Turks and Turkey. And majority of people here do like this country. You will see conflicts every time somebody's post is misunderstood. It's normal in every single forum I have seen. |
Please don't waste your time trying to understand As I have said, I don't confine myself to the forums, I use the language lessons. I've made quite a few friends on this site, friends with different backgrounds. I have this site to be thankful to for that, so why should I not feel some loyalty towards it? In the past I have contributed to the photographs and I have enjoyed reading the essays and the poetry too. I have also learned quite a lot about Turkey by reading the forum threads. The forums are visited by many people and I am a tiny part of it. My posts aren't so significant. If I wish to post a comment, for whatever reason, I do - in much the same way as other members do. It's that simple.
Of course conflict MAY result from misunderstanding and they may also arise because of difference of opinion. Debate is about airing differences isn't it? Difference makes life so much more interesting, even if it rankles at times.
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08 Apr 2008 Tue 02:26 pm |
btw Thank you for teaching me how to make pretty blue boxes
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