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Let the "East" Talk!
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08 Aug 2007 Wed 08:09 pm |
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Quoting Badiabdancer74: I have a specific question for you to make it easier. What is the custom of meeting (an older?) person of holding their hand kissing it and putting it to your forehead. When do you do this? Gender differences, man to woman, woman to woman, woman to man? How old is 'old' and are you going to offend anyone if they don't consider themselves old? Cem (my fiance) said it is important to do this, but I felt too uncomfortable and I didn't want to make anyone feel OLD! I am a yabanci...I don't understand!  |
Well,im Egyptian not Turkish
And we dont have those kind of customes anymore,we used to have it,but it ended in the big Cities,and upper Egypt,maybe it still goes like that in the south.
The son,even if he is a man kisses his Dad's hand and touch it to his forhead.
And he sit down after his Dad sit,and he cant cross his legs infront of him,he cant lay on couch or something like that infront of him
İt considered rude
He should wear formal clothes,i mean even its hot,he cant wear shorts for example infront of him,but dont wear a suit too, lol
He do this for his father and Mother,and elder people too of the family.
But he can be more comfortable infront of his Mom,considering laying,and clothes,from the thought she is kind and she would allow it.
İf we went to south,they dont expect us to do so,although they wouldnt like our norm attitude,but they ..hhmmm well, consider us yabanci to south too
Ohh,and old means,he is in the age to be your father,or close to it.
Ps:i mean he or she,both do the same,has nothing to do with genders.
Wish some of Turkish friends can help you with that tho.
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08 Aug 2007 Wed 08:16 pm |
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Quoting libralady:
This is a very good example of "alculturation", how one culture changes another, quite extremely so. But if I am not wrong, the culture in Hong Kong is changing slightly back again? And two cutlures sit comfortably side by side - Western Culture with Eastern culture? |
I guess you mean that the soveignty of HK has been returned to China after 1997...I don't think or feel that the multi-cultural scenario of HK is changed after the return to the Mainland China. (Please note that Hongkongers share their own identities that are different from people living in most parts of China which we call the Mainland.)
Hongkongers are very much comfortable with both the East and West. We speak Chinese as well as English. We eat rice as well as bread. Tea as well as coffee. Won-ton soup as well as burgers...isn't it interesting?
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08 Aug 2007 Wed 08:18 pm |
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I have a specific question regarding the full hijab. If you meet a man, or even if you have an arranged marriage, at what point is he allowed to see your face and hair?
Also, with the advent of internet, would you be permitted to talk to someone you meet via webcam? Would you be able to exchange photographs?
Forgive my ignorance with this subject, but its something I have often wondered about
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08 Aug 2007 Wed 08:24 pm |
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Quoting ninja: Hey you should have made the tea as dark as it could be, it would have helped your digestion.  |
Hehe Yes, luckily I love strong tea  Could you answer my question about sleeping at lunchtime? I am so curious
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08 Aug 2007 Wed 08:25 pm |
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Thanks, the Turkish information comes in handy. It is interesting your information about Egypt. I think Cem's parents understand that I don't understand, but next time I see them I will do this! He specifically wanted me to do this when we visited his neighbors. I have to warn Cem or my parents about this, they will think it is super-weird if they don't know it is to show respect. I already warned him not to hug men in the U.S.
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08 Aug 2007 Wed 08:27 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: I have a specific question regarding the full hijab. If you meet a man, or even if you have an arranged marriage, at what point is he allowed to see your face and hair?
Also, with the advent of internet, would you be permitted to talk to someone you meet via webcam? Would you be able to exchange photographs?
Forgive my ignorance with this subject, but its something I have often wondered about |
Full hijab ?you mean Niqab who is covering face too and only eyes are shown ?
Well,as i know, he sees her face once before they accept each other,and as for her hair,he is not allowed to see 'i guess' his sister or mother can,and allowed to tell him about it.
İ cant talk on their behalf,i dont meet them,but you can judge from what they do in arranged marriage.
As for girls who wear normal hijab,it depends on the girl herself,whether she allow him to see her or not.
Some dont wear hijab infront of their fience at all,as long as they are at home,and some do.
As for internet,they do while wearing hijab,and can exchenge pic if they want.
İts her choice.
As for if the man SHOULD see her hair or not,in İslam,he shouldnt,but of course he can see her face,its not hidden by hijab
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08 Aug 2007 Wed 08:28 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: I have a specific question regarding the full hijab. If you meet a man, or even if you have an arranged marriage, at what point is he allowed to see your face and hair?
Also, with the advent of internet, would you be permitted to talk to someone you meet via webcam? Would you be able to exchange photographs?
Forgive my ignorance with this subject, but its something I have often wondered about |
well..everyone says different things about this subject. as far as i know you can show your face to the man you meet but not your hair.
it seems nonsense to me becasue a face can affect a man more than hair does.But i respect it. i have to respect because my mother would kill me if i didnt respect she wears that too.
in turkey lately these women are getting more modern. they are used to stay at home all day until 90 s but now you can see them everywhere. but they still dont show their hair to men.
P.S. i was in love with a girl was wearing hijab when i was a teenager and i never saw her hair. i still wonder what color her hair is 
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08 Aug 2007 Wed 08:30 pm |
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Quoting CANLI: Full hijab ?you mean Niqab who is covering face too and only eyes are shown ?
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Sorry! - I did say I was pretty ignorant about such things  . Yes, that is what I meant. So it seems much of the decision is a personal one then
Thanks Canli!
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08 Aug 2007 Wed 08:30 pm |
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Quoting Badiabdancer74: I have a specific question for you to make it easier. What is the custom of meeting (an older?) person of holding their hand kissing it and putting it to your forehead. When do you do this? Gender differences, man to woman, woman to woman, woman to man? How old is 'old' and are you going to offend anyone if they don't consider themselves old? Cem (my fiance) said it is important to do this, but I felt too uncomfortable and I didn't want to make anyone feel OLD! I am a yabanci...I don't understand! |
I am only talking as a Chinese of the East. Traditionally, kissing is never a usual practise when greeting with anyone. Except those who have adopted a western lifestyle or when some are greeting friends coming from other countries.We may shake hands(or touch the hands)...yes even for greeting the elder. With the influence of the Western culture which we feel at ease for many decades, we will hug each other occasionally, but still skipping the kiss. We will kiss our little children(who are relatives only) when saying goodbye.
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08 Aug 2007 Wed 08:32 pm |
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Quoting mavisakal: P.S. i was in love with a girl was wearing hijab when i was a teenager and i never saw her hair. i still wonder what color her hair is |
Hehehehe! It would be great for me, on my numerous "bad hair days"
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AEnigma III