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Let the "East" Talk!
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08 Aug 2007 Wed 11:11 pm |
when the easterner in the west he says:
MY house is MY house! YOUR house is MY house!
my hope is in the eastern europe (as once it resisted and stopped the asian expansion in the battle of vienna).
the western europe is passing away
when you arrive in the west you may exclaim: Oh my God, where am I, in Saudi Arabia?
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08 Aug 2007 Wed 11:30 pm |
2nd installment
Şeker Bayramı, or Eid El Fitr as we call it,its after Ramadan,we celebrate that we stopped fasting ,and celebrate the Holy month is over.
Before it ends there are some traditions we ALL do before Bayram.
Parents taking kids to buy the Eid clothes,all to his budget,but you would find all kids wearing new clothes,poor or rich
And women got there share too,and buy new clothes
İf there is any money left for the man,he can buy for himself, lol
Then the weak before Eid,all Mothers doing only one thing
CLEANİNG the house
And the can use kids too,asking them to tidy their rooms
And all the family is under the mother mercy in this
Usually the men who can afford pay and get the cleaning lady,but still washing curtains,and...,and... never ends lol
Then we buy the Eid Sweets,is some sweets got sugar on the surface,and lots of other goodies,all to his level too.
First day in Eid,family wake up early,and who doesnt wake,he receive a call on 6 am to say Şeker Bayram Kutlo Olsun
Then men,kids in their new clothes,and sometimes women go to Bayram Namaz,'Salat'
And when they come back,Family eat sweets with tea,and have an early gathering with the big family to have breakfast
Then start family visists.
Kids are the lucky ones in those days,they take money from elder people,family,relative or friends,who happen to meet.
Women get money too from husbands,if they afford it.
Then we have another family gathering at lunch,we eat grilled fish usually
Then kids go out and by toys with their money,and NEVER give it to parents
Second day some continue visisting people who we didnt visit,third day we gather youth together,have dish part,and play some games.
Ohhh,i forgot to say,Şeker Bayram is 3 days
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08 Aug 2007 Wed 11:59 pm |
Quoting femme_fatal: i tell you the difference between westeners and easterners.
1. when an easterner is in the west the westerners are supposed to understand and respect the customs and tolerate the most of the actions (including the women discrimination) of the easterner.
2. when an westerner is in the east, he/she is expected to understand and respect the customs and agree with all the actions seen in local area even it may seem rude or unfair.
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To be fair, I think that this is true. Westerners don't have high expectations from others, they even tolerate different beliefs and types of behavior for the sake of being tolerant.
On the other hand, Easterners (very vague term by the way) expect everybody to tiptoe around them, so to say. I think that it's kind of double faced, because if they expect westerners to respect their social values when westerners visit their countries, they should also respect the western social values when they go there.
It's a generalization of course, not everybody is like this, but there's certainly enough people who think this way to make it significant.
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09 Aug 2007 Thu 12:10 am |
Quoting catwoman: To be fair, I think that this is true. Westerners don't have high expectations from others, they even tolerate different beliefs and types of behavior for the sake of being tolerant.
On the other hand, Easterners (very vague term by the way) expect everybody to tiptoe around them, so to say. I think that it's kind of double faced, because if they expect westerners to respect their social values when westerners visit their countries, they should also respect the western social values when they go there.
It's a generalization of course, not everybody is like this, but there's certainly enough people who think this way to make it significant. |
guess, who in the whole world is the person that speaks the truth with no fear?
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09 Aug 2007 Thu 12:15 am |
one more truth!
the easterners cant stand any single criticism!
they love you when you flatter them (they throw on you all the possible compliments calling you wise and kind), but their love may end suddenly when you mention anything negative about their life.
thats the truth! remember it you naive westerners!
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09 Aug 2007 Thu 12:29 am |
Third installment ,
mmmm,sorry Canım,cant post the third part at this level of discussion
This thread was about Eastern Traditions,and culture,and ended up insulting Easterns.
So,i either reply,and be dragged to some stupid fight,we have lots of them here in real world
Or to ignore and continue knowing each other.
İ chose the second one ,but when a moderate,and admin dont see what is wrong in those kind of posts
Adding that moderate read each post well enough that they just locked one for debating about religion,but they dont see any wrong in those kind of posts.
So i pick another alternative,and i wont join,im sorry.
When i feel respect is mutual,i will rejoin
Btw,great example of your culture femme,Thank ALLAH i dont know it,or else i would be dragged to another wrong judgement from people in the net this time,not the Media.
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09 Aug 2007 Thu 10:47 am |
Quoting AEnigma III: Come on then Canli, Elham, Pizza and others, we would also like to know more about YOUR traditions and customs and everyday life .
I remember Janissary posted some really great things about customs and traditions in Turkey some time ago, but they have been "buried" long ago. Would love to hear more  |
To all who are responding:
I do remember the topic for this thread is "Let the East Talk"...not "Let the West Judge", right?
A very famous quote from Chinese wisdom(Art of War by Sun Tzu): If you know both yourself and your enemy, you will come out of one hundred battles with one hundred victories.
I am not referring a battle here. I would like to borrow this concept. If anyone like to comment on or even judge upon others, he/she need to acquire better knowledge of the others.
However, I sincerely expect that we are sharing our East or West culture and experiences without any quick judgement on others. Agree? AEnigma III, I do appreciate that you want to "hear more"...
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09 Aug 2007 Thu 03:58 pm |
femme_fatal has killed the discussion. I really wanted to talk about these things more! People have told you that you are being disrespectful and you keep going. You know that story about a woman who hates herself was for you right? It is ok to express your viewpoints, but if it is hurting others (like a bazaar education) that is abusive and no one wants to see that (except you?) The rules here are no racist comments, the rash statements you are making about 'Easterners' are racist in my opinion. Also the way you have treated the Egyptian here, Canli started this string and now has left! My prediction is you are going to bash me as a person...
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09 Aug 2007 Thu 04:33 pm |
It's not often I agree with femme but I on this occasion I think there is some truth in what she is saying. Canlı started a thread "Let the West Talk" then proceeded to criticize western society. When somebody dares to criticize eastern values she is full of indignation.
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09 Aug 2007 Thu 05:27 pm |
hello, im Elham from Iraq,
it is beautiful topic to talk about it.
Iraq was not well known as an Arab country except in current events by news of the killings, destruction and terrorism .
So I just wanted to write some words, may be far from the center of the topic :
People battle for life
Iraqis are waging the fiercest battle fateful day in modern history, in order to survive, life and progress and continue to present with the future, before they are ruthless enemy nor pity nor humanity, that the Black terrorism enemy of humanity without distinction between this or that, want the good of all goodness and peace and security for themselves and their neighbors and the whole world. This is what Iraqis want and dreaming about, and whether this Bekthirali people had endured injustice, terrorism, war and tragedy by bloodthirsty dictatorship? , Which is still deem criminal terrorist continuous Although scandalous collapse. This is the battle of Iraq and its people with these murderers, people want life, liberty for a handful of criminals, know only killing, this is the reality of the conflict and the nature of the battle in Iraq today, and not portrayed as enemies of Iraq at home and abroad, as if the battle between the sons of the Iraqi people. The Iraqis may disagree among themselves on many issues, intellectual and political trends, programs and targets ... But they do not disagree on the sovereignty, independence and unity of their homeland, despite Telaouinhem multiple shadows and various meets in all democratic, pluralistic and federal Iraq. And lose all of the wagers on the battle of the people of Iraq in the face of crime syndicates and ignorant mercenaries, because history is witness to the peoples and national heroes, battles humanitarian generally fair as those who knew only the senseless death and destruction, and this is their way. The people of Iraq will be victorious inevitably, it fought and fought and the inhabitants to life, liberty and justice for all Iraqis and human
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09 Aug 2007 Thu 05:28 pm |
Quoting bydand: It's not often I agree with femme but I on this occasion I think there is some truth in what she is saying. Canlı started a thread "Let the West Talk" then proceeded to criticize western society. When somebody dares to criticize eastern values she is full of indignation. |
İ dont mind criticizing bydand,but i mind insulting,and disrespect for the Eastern society,for our religion 'İslam' and for Muslim women ,and for me as a person !
You didnt read her other posts because they've been deleted for that reason,but other people have read them.
And btw,if you reread my posts in "Let the West Talk" you would understand i wasnt criticizing the western society,i was state how the East see you.
İ criticize western society in other threads if needed but not in that one,because i started to set a good understanding from individuals who live in the west,not to criticize it.
Anyway,subject is closed for me.
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