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10.       tommysbar
492 posts
 17 Aug 2007 Fri 05:06 pm

hahahahah thank you so much

11.       tommysbar
492 posts
 17 Aug 2007 Fri 05:07 pm

Alevi so is there a big difference or small

12.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 17 Aug 2007 Fri 05:09 pm

Quoting tommysbar:

Alevi so is there a big difference or small



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alevi
Google is a wonderful thing

13.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 17 Aug 2007 Fri 05:13 pm

Here is some info I found on the internet about Alevi:

The Alevi
A significant Shia minority lives in Turkey. As in the Ottoman period, a census of the Shia population has never been taken in the republican period. Thus, there is no accurate information on the size of the Shia community, which has been estimated to constitute as little as 7 percent and as much as 30 percent of Turkey's total population. Sunni in Turkey tend to refer to all Shia as Alevi. In actuality, Alevi constitute but one of four Shia sects in the country. But Alevi are by far the largest Shia sect in Turkey, accounting for at least 70 percent of the country's Shia.Twelve Imam Shia and followers of the heterodox Ahl-i Haq and Bektasi have resided in Turkey for centuries. Twelve Imam Shia comprise a majority of all Shia worldwide, although their numbers in Turkey are estimated at only 20 to 25 percent of all Shia in the country. Scholars believe that the unorthodox Ahl-i Haq, whose adherents are almost exclusively Kurds, and the equally unorthodox Bektasi, whose followers primarily are ethnic Turks, are even fewer in number than the Twelve Imam Shia.

Even though scholars of the contemporary Middle East tend to associate Alevi with Syria, where they have played an influential political role since the 1960s, a majority of all Alevi actually live in Turkey. Alevi include almost all of Turkey's Arab minority, from 10 to 30 percent of the country's Kurds, and many ethnic Turks. In fact, a majority of Alevi may be Turks. Historically, Alevi resided predominantly in southeastern Turkey, but the mass rural-to-urban migration that has been relatively continuous since 1960 has resulted in thousands of Alevi moving to cities in central and western Anatolia. Consequently, Alevi communities of varying size were located in most of the country's major cities by the mid-1990s.

Because of centuries of persecution by Sunni Muslims, Alevi became highly secretive about the tenets of their faith and their religious practices. Consequently, almost no reliable information about Alevi Islam is available. Unsympathetic published sources reported that Alevi worshiped Ali ibn Abu Talib, observed various Christian rituals, and venerated both Christian and Muslim saints. Prior to the twentieth century, information on the sect was so sparse and distorted that even Twelve Imam Shia regarded Alevi as heretics. However, the tendency among most contemporary Twelve Imam clergy is to recognize the Alevi as a distinct legal school within the Twelve Imam tradition. In addition, major Twelve Imam Shia theological colleges in Iran and Iraq have accepted Alevi students since the 1940s.

14.       tommysbar
492 posts
 17 Aug 2007 Fri 05:18 pm

thank u

15.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 17 Aug 2007 Fri 05:21 pm

Wow - this is interesting:-

"Modern Alevi theology has been profoundly influenced by humanism and universalism. Thus, while many of the older generation view Alevism as a religious belief, many of the younger generation prefer to term it a philosophy, some even making connections with Marxism. Alevi communities are strong supporters of Kemalism due to its strong secularist ideology."


Marxism??!?! :-S

16.       Trudy
7887 posts
 17 Aug 2007 Fri 05:30 pm

Maybe your friend meant one of the law schools within Sunni's? There are 4 of them, two starting with an H: Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi'i and Hanbali.

You can read more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunni_Islam#Sunni_schools_of_law_.28Madhhab.29

17.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 17 Aug 2007 Fri 05:31 pm

which side does that leave for ciko to support?

18.       ciko
784 posts
 17 Aug 2007 Fri 05:36 pm

ciko loves both sides because his brother is sunni and his sister in law is alevi

19.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 17 Aug 2007 Fri 07:50 pm

Quoting ciko:

ciko loves both sides because his brother is sunni and his sister in law is alevi



I am in a similar situation myself. My brother-in-law is Imperial and my sister is Jedi

20.       ciko
784 posts
 17 Aug 2007 Fri 09:21 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting ciko:

ciko loves both sides because his brother is sunni and his sister in law is alevi



I am in a similar situation myself. My brother-in-law is Imperial and my sister is Jedi



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